Thanks for the additional detail, si.  Now I understand your problem better 
- I thought the issue was drag and drop for installations.   I will have to 
try out re-ordering a list to see if I can reproduce the behavior.   Can 
you easily provide example instructions? Maybe we can rule out Windows as 
being part of the problem. 

You are right, Vivaldi is based on Chrome, as is Brave.  I dropped Brave as 
there were too many times when button activation didn't work.   

Stan

On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 8:35:31 AM UTC-5 si wrote:

> Thanks for the replies. I forgot to mention that I'm running Windows 10 
> and Timimi.
>
> >>> I've found that at least on my machine, you have to drag in an up or 
> down direction, rather than a left and right direction, to get Vivaldi to 
> start dragging at all...but then it usually does not display the "drop 
> here" item anyway. 
>
> @Soren I hadn't noticed this but yeah your right. It seems that often I am 
> dragging slightly to the side, inadvertently highlighting some of the text 
> because the mechanism isn't working, then dragging the highlighted text. 
> This creates a tiddler with a bunch of html in the title ("<div 
> class=......etc").
>
> >>>The peculiar thing is that I have been able to drag and drop many 
> plugins, *except* that I have not been able to drag and drop the Kookma 
> library to a Tiddlywiki hosted on Fission.  However, I could drag and drop 
> the Shiraz plugin to the Fission TW.  I have TW on Gitlab and Tiddlyhost, 
> with no drag and drop problems.
>
> @Stan I don't have any problems with installing plugins via drag-and-drop, 
> I'm only noticing problems with re-ordering lists (like when clicking on a 
> tag pill). I've not run TW on Fission or Tiddlyhost though.
>
> >>> Do you have any extensions running on Vivaldi?
>
> I do but tried it with a blank profile and the problem persists. It seems 
> like there's just something weird about Vivaldi, though I thought it was 
> still based on Chromium.
>
> On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 00:34:43 UTC Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>
>> I've never used Vivaldi with TW because I have other plugins that 
>> interfere with TW, so I've always done TW in a separate browser – so never 
>> noticed this before. But on checking, it does not work for me either.
>>
>> I've found that at least on my machine, you have to drag in an up or down 
>> direction, rather than a left and right direction, to get Vivaldi to start 
>> dragging at all...but then it usually does not display the "drop here" item 
>> anyway.
>>
>> On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 9:27:20 AM UTC-6 si wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I recently went back to the Vivaldi browser <https://vivaldi.com/>, and 
>>> I noticed that drag-and-drop functions of TiddlyWiki don't work properly. 
>>> If you go the "Open" tab (or click on a tag pill) and try to drag 
>>> something, it either doesn't work or creates a new tiddler with some crazy 
>>> html as the title.
>>>
>>> Does anyone else get this with Vivaldi? It's a shame because it has some 
>>> nice TW-friendly features, so I wondered if there was a fix out there?
>>>
>>

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