I guess usually just a fraction of a second, but trying varying lengths just now it doesn't seem to affect the behaviour in any way.
On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 16:30:12 UTC [email protected] wrote: > @si, I am curious about something -- how long do you hold down the mouse > key before you drag and drop? I can get different behaviors depending on > the amount of time I hold the key pressed before dragging. > > I'm grasping at straws, you know. > > I am running Vivaldi 3.6.2165.40 (Stable channel) (x86_64) > > Stan > > On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 11:19:44 AM UTC-5 si wrote: > >> @Stan OK thanks. I just tried updating the newest Vivaldi but the >> behaviour I described remains. Hopefully someone else will see this thread >> and give it a try so we can get more info. >> >> @Soren What OS did you use to test it? >> On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 14:21:04 UTC [email protected] wrote: >> >>> @si - I did a quickie here. I am sitting at my MacBook Air (11in, >>> Mojave). Followed your instructions and had no problems reordering the >>> "open" list. I did not have to be careful about dragging the link - in >>> fact, I made a point of dragging at an angle and didn't have a problem. >>> I've been able to do this several times now. I did not experience the >>> horizontal/vertical problem that Soren described. >>> >>> Stan >>> >>> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 8:57:02 AM UTC-5 si wrote: >>> >>>> @Stan I don't think its a Windows problem, because IIR Soren doesn't >>>> use Windows. There's not much to add in the way of instructions: >>>> >>>> 1. Open Vivaldi and go to tiddlywiki.com >>>> 2. Click on one of the links in the "open" tab, and try to >>>> drag-and-drop to reorder them. I find that it only works if I am careful >>>> to >>>> drag the link on a strictly vertical plane. If Idrag it slightly to the >>>> side it doesn't work. Same is true for other lists, like the ones you get >>>> when you click on tag pills. >>>> >>>> This seems to happen in any wiki that I try. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 13:45:22 UTC [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for the additional detail, si. Now I understand your problem >>>>> better - I thought the issue was drag and drop for installations. I >>>>> will >>>>> have to try out re-ordering a list to see if I can reproduce the >>>>> behavior. >>>>> Can you easily provide example instructions? Maybe we can rule out >>>>> Windows >>>>> as being part of the problem. >>>>> >>>>> You are right, Vivaldi is based on Chrome, as is Brave. I dropped >>>>> Brave as there were too many times when button activation didn't work. >>>>> >>>>> Stan >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 8:35:31 AM UTC-5 si wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the replies. I forgot to mention that I'm running Windows >>>>>> 10 and Timimi. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> I've found that at least on my machine, you have to drag in an up >>>>>> or down direction, rather than a left and right direction, to get >>>>>> Vivaldi >>>>>> to start dragging at all...but then it usually does not display the >>>>>> "drop >>>>>> here" item anyway. >>>>>> >>>>>> @Soren I hadn't noticed this but yeah your right. It seems that often >>>>>> I am dragging slightly to the side, inadvertently highlighting some of >>>>>> the >>>>>> text because the mechanism isn't working, then dragging the highlighted >>>>>> text. This creates a tiddler with a bunch of html in the title ("<div >>>>>> class=......etc"). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>The peculiar thing is that I have been able to drag and drop many >>>>>> plugins, *except* that I have not been able to drag and drop the >>>>>> Kookma library to a Tiddlywiki hosted on Fission. However, I could drag >>>>>> and drop the Shiraz plugin to the Fission TW. I have TW on Gitlab and >>>>>> Tiddlyhost, with no drag and drop problems. >>>>>> >>>>>> @Stan I don't have any problems with installing plugins via >>>>>> drag-and-drop, I'm only noticing problems with re-ordering lists (like >>>>>> when >>>>>> clicking on a tag pill). I've not run TW on Fission or Tiddlyhost though. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> Do you have any extensions running on Vivaldi? >>>>>> >>>>>> I do but tried it with a blank profile and the problem persists. It >>>>>> seems like there's just something weird about Vivaldi, though I thought >>>>>> it >>>>>> was still based on Chromium. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 00:34:43 UTC Soren Bjornstad wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've never used Vivaldi with TW because I have other plugins that >>>>>>> interfere with TW, so I've always done TW in a separate browser – so >>>>>>> never >>>>>>> noticed this before. But on checking, it does not work for me either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've found that at least on my machine, you have to drag in an up or >>>>>>> down direction, rather than a left and right direction, to get Vivaldi >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> start dragging at all...but then it usually does not display the "drop >>>>>>> here" item anyway. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 9:27:20 AM UTC-6 si wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I recently went back to the Vivaldi browser <https://vivaldi.com/>, >>>>>>>> and I noticed that drag-and-drop functions of TiddlyWiki don't work >>>>>>>> properly. If you go the "Open" tab (or click on a tag pill) and try to >>>>>>>> drag >>>>>>>> something, it either doesn't work or creates a new tiddler with some >>>>>>>> crazy >>>>>>>> html as the title. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does anyone else get this with Vivaldi? It's a shame because it has >>>>>>>> some nice TW-friendly features, so I wondered if there was a fix out >>>>>>>> there? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/650548da-45b5-42da-9ed1-862556b6b5d9n%40googlegroups.com.
