@Stan OK thanks. I just tried updating the newest Vivaldi but the behaviour 
I described remains. Hopefully someone else will see this thread and give 
it a try so we can get more info.

@Soren What OS did you use to test it?
On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 14:21:04 UTC [email protected] wrote:

> @si - I did a quickie here.  I am sitting at my MacBook Air (11in, 
> Mojave).  Followed your instructions and had no problems reordering the 
> "open" list.  I did not have to be careful about dragging the link - in 
> fact, I made a point of dragging at an angle and didn't have a problem. 
> I've been able to do this several times now.   I did not experience the 
> horizontal/vertical problem that Soren described. 
>
> Stan
>
> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 8:57:02 AM UTC-5 si wrote:
>
>> @Stan I don't think its a Windows problem, because IIR Soren doesn't use 
>> Windows. There's not much to add in the way of instructions:
>>
>> 1. Open Vivaldi and go to tiddlywiki.com
>> 2. Click on one of the links in the "open" tab, and try to drag-and-drop 
>> to reorder them. I find that it only works if I am careful to drag the link 
>> on a strictly vertical plane. If Idrag it slightly to the side it doesn't 
>> work. Same is true for other lists, like the ones you get when you click on 
>> tag pills.
>>
>> This seems to happen in any wiki that I try.
>>
>> On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 13:45:22 UTC [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the additional detail, si.  Now I understand your problem 
>>> better - I thought the issue was drag and drop for installations.   I will 
>>> have to try out re-ordering a list to see if I can reproduce the behavior.  
>>>  Can you easily provide example instructions? Maybe we can rule out Windows 
>>> as being part of the problem. 
>>>
>>> You are right, Vivaldi is based on Chrome, as is Brave.  I dropped Brave 
>>> as there were too many times when button activation didn't work.   
>>>
>>> Stan
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 8:35:31 AM UTC-5 si wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the replies. I forgot to mention that I'm running Windows 10 
>>>> and Timimi.
>>>>
>>>> >>> I've found that at least on my machine, you have to drag in an up 
>>>> or down direction, rather than a left and right direction, to get Vivaldi 
>>>> to start dragging at all...but then it usually does not display the "drop 
>>>> here" item anyway. 
>>>>
>>>> @Soren I hadn't noticed this but yeah your right. It seems that often I 
>>>> am dragging slightly to the side, inadvertently highlighting some of the 
>>>> text because the mechanism isn't working, then dragging the highlighted 
>>>> text. This creates a tiddler with a bunch of html in the title ("<div 
>>>> class=......etc").
>>>>
>>>> >>>The peculiar thing is that I have been able to drag and drop many 
>>>> plugins, *except* that I have not been able to drag and drop the 
>>>> Kookma library to a Tiddlywiki hosted on Fission.  However, I could drag 
>>>> and drop the Shiraz plugin to the Fission TW.  I have TW on Gitlab and 
>>>> Tiddlyhost, with no drag and drop problems.
>>>>
>>>> @Stan I don't have any problems with installing plugins via 
>>>> drag-and-drop, I'm only noticing problems with re-ordering lists (like 
>>>> when 
>>>> clicking on a tag pill). I've not run TW on Fission or Tiddlyhost though.
>>>>
>>>> >>> Do you have any extensions running on Vivaldi?
>>>>
>>>> I do but tried it with a blank profile and the problem persists. It 
>>>> seems like there's just something weird about Vivaldi, though I thought it 
>>>> was still based on Chromium.
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 00:34:43 UTC Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've never used Vivaldi with TW because I have other plugins that 
>>>>> interfere with TW, so I've always done TW in a separate browser – so 
>>>>> never 
>>>>> noticed this before. But on checking, it does not work for me either.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've found that at least on my machine, you have to drag in an up or 
>>>>> down direction, rather than a left and right direction, to get Vivaldi to 
>>>>> start dragging at all...but then it usually does not display the "drop 
>>>>> here" item anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 9:27:20 AM UTC-6 si wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I recently went back to the Vivaldi browser <https://vivaldi.com/>, 
>>>>>> and I noticed that drag-and-drop functions of TiddlyWiki don't work 
>>>>>> properly. If you go the "Open" tab (or click on a tag pill) and try to 
>>>>>> drag 
>>>>>> something, it either doesn't work or creates a new tiddler with some 
>>>>>> crazy 
>>>>>> html as the title.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone else get this with Vivaldi? It's a shame because it has 
>>>>>> some nice TW-friendly features, so I wondered if there was a fix out 
>>>>>> there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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