Mohammad et all.

On Tuesday, 18 May 2021 at 16:03:45 UTC+10 Mohammad wrote:

Just to supplement the drag and drop conversation I wanted to point out a 
few more methods I use

   - If you download a wiki simply clicking on it will open it in the 
   browser (no need for opening your file manger)
   - If you download a plugin or JSON in Chrome (listed at bottom) or 
   FireFox (behind download button) you can simply drag from the browser 
   downloads on top of a wiki  (no need for opening your file manger).
   - You can load a set of tiddlers into a bookmarklet, on any site click 
   to install (download) that content to the current tiddler. A Quick and easy 
   method to build bookmarklets to drop on your favourites/bookmarks could be 
   another interwiki transfer method. 

I did not understand this solution! Would you please explain this!


Sure. 

As a tiddlywiki user I deal with html files (wikis) and plugins and JSON 
files all the time. Thus any work flow improvements are welcome. 

If you want to get something, the typical approaches are;

   - Drag from one wiki to another
   - Download a file then open it in the file system and drag and drop it
   - After downloading import the desired file to your current tiddlywiki

However the modern browsers allow you to download a file (no where 
particular like the downloads folder), the recently downloaded file is 
listed in down loads, and you can open it from there OR drag a file from 
there and drop it on a wiki in the browser tab.

Lets say I come across a new plugin or a json tiddler, I just want to test.

   1. Go to tiddlywiki.com and download empty.html
   2. Go to the download manager and open it (empty.htm) opens in a tab)
   3. Go to the link and download the resource (file plugin etc) you want
   4. Now drag this recently downloaded resource (file) onto the tab with 
   empty html
   5. With Timimi installed I can save and reload and test the plugin
   6. If I am happy with that I close the tab and forget about it.
   7. Also this takes place in a single browser and tab, I have no need to 
   visit the file system

Of course

   1. If drag and drop is a available I use it.
   2. If I want to retain the result I may rename and move it!
   3. If something is in your download manger it can be dropped on multiple 
   wikis without leaving the browser.


Futures

   1. Drag /download  " objects from one wiki to another" such as todos and 
   streams and more
      1. Test data and more
   

Regards
Tones

On Tuesday, 18 May 2021 at 16:03:45 UTC+10 Mohammad wrote:

> Hi Tones!
>
> Thank you for this!
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:56 AM TW Tones <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> Just to supplement the drag and drop conversation I wanted to point out a 
>> few more methods I use
>>
>>    - If you download a wiki simply clicking on it will open it in the 
>>    browser (no need for opening your file manger)
>>    - If you download a plugin or JSON in Chrome (listed at bottom) or 
>>    FireFox (behind download button) you can simply drag from the browser 
>>    downloads on top of a wiki  (no need for opening your file manger).
>>    - You can load a set of tiddlers into a bookmarklet, on any site 
>>    click to install (download) that content to the current tiddler. A Quick 
>>    and easy method to build bookmarklets to drop on your 
>> favourites/bookmarks 
>>    could be another interwiki transfer method. 
>>
>> I did not understand this solution! Would you please explain this!
>
>
>
>>    - Bookmarklets themselves can be dragged between Browsers such as 
>>    FireFox and Chrome to wikis or bookmarks.
>>
>> I would also like to see the existing zip mechaisium used to allow the 
>> dropping of tiddler into a wiki stored zip file. Ideally these activities 
>> can be design to use consistent interfaces and methods so learning one 
>> helps you learn another.
>>
>> I can confirm it would be possible to be able to drop tiddlers into a 
>> plugin with a little design.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>> On Monday, 17 May 2021 at 19:35:54 UTC+10 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>> Mohammad ...
>>>
>>> ... Footnote to my last ... in browser the experimental Bookmarklet for 
>>> WikiLink versions of title/url looks like this ...
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2021-05-17 113231.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, 17 May 2021 at 11:27:35 UTC+2 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ciao
>>>>
>>>> The whole thread is very interesting! It touches on a lot of things. 
>>>> Unfortunately my mind is going in different directions :-(.
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to think *what an INTEGRATED LINK HARVESTER would look 
>>>> like?* 
>>>> ONE interface, multiple methods?
>>>>
>>>> For instance to capture page TITLES, not just urls, in WikiText format, 
>>>> I hacked a browser BOOKMARKLET [very easy to do even if you don't know 
>>>> JavaScript] that will let you copy the URL and the TITLE ...
>>>>
>>>> (Only tested on desktop FF & Chrome ...) *Just indicative of a extra 
>>>> way we might look into?*
>>>>
>>>> *Bookmark name*: Copy link as WikiText
>>>> *URL*:  
>>>> javascript:text='[['+document.title+'|'+location.href+']]';window.prompt('Copy
>>>>  
>>>> to clipboard: Ctrl+C, Enter',text);false
>>>>
>>>>  I will write later about other aspects.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes
>>>> TT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, 16 May 2021 at 10:09:21 UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Please share, someone my take quicker action ;-)
>>>>>
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