Yes @Charlie: on more careful research + reflection <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/vlAZ_K4K63o/m/cPuFWVIKAQAJ>, i now realize that you are quite right. Am doing further research and will be elaborating on those requirements in due course. /walt
On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 5:12:20 PM UTC+1 [email protected] wrote: > The purpose of that mock-up was just to pin down the various things needed > for simultaneous notemaking and notetaking (if one wants), or just focused > on notemaking for the current task, or just focused on notetaking for the > current task. > > I had just gone with columns to make the pieces easy to identify, but any > kind of interface can be slapped together. Anything could be done. > Columns, rows, panels, tabs, etc. etc. etc. > > So let's not see that as design, but just as discussion about the > necessary pieces/components/features/functionality/workflows/etc. > > Regardless, from what I see so far in this thead, I still think: why can't > that all be done in TiddlyWiki ? > > Anything and everything that's ever been done with TiddlyWiki, bits and > pieces can be pulled together and combined, I believe, to build something > that can handle all of: > > - distraction-free notetaking > - distraction-free notemaking > - simultaneous notetaking + notemaking when the urge strikes > > So pick any screenshots from anything out there as sources of inspiration, > but don't be limited by them (i.e. imagine what doesn't yet exist, but > could exist.) > > Just as ideas (inspiration?), here are a couple of screenshots: > > - https://zim-wiki.org/screenshots/zim-normal.png > - > > https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-g43ZEQDDVdI/UBPbvyfyCbI/AAAAAAAAWUg/uxeWVSOXYGg/s1600/KeepNote-Best-Note-Taking-Software-Linux.jpg > > Sniffs like a big project. For it to have any hope of happening, it needs > some tangible list of problems that need solving, needs that have to be > addressed, features to be described ... yup, requirements gathering. > > Regardless, even just the discussions of the problems/needs is right > awesome. Discussions of features/solutions to address individual > problems/needs is icing on the cake. > > > > > On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 5:52:18 AM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote: > >> Charlie, TT et al: Much as I do like these multi-pane views for >> NoteMAKING in TW, this is not what one wants for NoteTAKING, as I see it - >> as per the article i referenced up top, and the one shared by @Carsten and >> many more. >> >> The two window setup i posited in the eLearning UserStory presumed a >> video lecture in one window (via Zoom, YouTube or what have you), plus one >> other window where I do my agile NoteTaking. Any additional frames would bu >> not only unnecessary, but moreover a distraction. This is key to the power >> of outlining, as i see it (and most outliner aficionados would probably >> agree, tho i realize that outlining mode is not for everyone): it’s a blank >> canvas on which i can capture and organize a set of ideas just as quickly >> as they come to me- whether in context of a video lecture, a focus meeting, >> or in a solitary coffee-fueled brainstorm. >> >> Only when this job of NoteTAKING is finished do i want to think about >> NoteMAKING; that is when i value the many affordances that TW brings to the >> challenge of integrating this new material into my preexisting web of >> deeply intertwingled ideas. This is the problem-space/ opportunity zone >> where i think development effort would do best to focus: interoperability, >> versus trying to be all things to all users. >> >> /walt >> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 9:07:06 AM UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote: >> >>> Ciao Charlie & Walt >>> >>> Charlie, actually it was part to the point ... >>> [image: Screenshot 2021-06-20 095945.jpg] >>> >>> A 4th Column on random concerns that arise in is too would be >>> interesting. >>> A 4th column for me might, for instance, read "Slightly concerned Bruno >>> is OK." >>> >>> There are two issues, I think ... >>> (1) How to make it easy to switch "column" to enter note; >>> (2) How to (auto?) "flag/tag" each column content so you can >>> rearrange the info in many ways later. >>> Just thoughts! >>> >>> But the general idea looks good to me! >>> >>> Best wishes >>> TT >>> >>> [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Ugh et oops.. e-Learner. I went a little off-track there thinking >>>> in-person classroom/auditorium/hall. >>>> >>>> Charlie Veniot <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Now we're talking. That is an awesome use case. >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/88019c78-535a-4133-86b7-f88137ab00e0n%40googlegroups.com.
