Albeit virtually, I am hugging you (a whole bunch of you, really) quite fiercely.
Just know that, since we can't all be fierce huggers, much more conservative-style virtual hugging or virtual fist-bumps are available upon request. I may like to scare folk a little, but I draw the line at scarring folk. I am neither old enough nor cute enough to get away with that. Yet. In the spirit of Jack Nicholson as "The Joker", but minus the evil and in the context of senior care: wait 'til they get a load of me ... *Aside and for the collaborative-experimentation-giggles*, I've got a privately shared-for-editing version of that Google drawing. If you want to play (you don't gotta pay! Just because it rhymes.), send a request for edit access to the publicly visible document, and I'll share the private one. Well, since I can't know for sure who is requesting access, I'll be putting the kibosh on access privs right pronto should anybody start doing bad things. (Hence edit privs only on the private document, and not the public one.) On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 2:40 PM ludwa6 <[email protected]> wrote: > I wouldn’t think of doing documentation any other way, mate ;-) > /w > > On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 5:48:03 PM UTC+1 [email protected] wrote: > >> That might need a TiddlyWiki... ☺ >> >> Smiles aside, TiddlyWiki for requirements management. Hmmmmm >> >> On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 1:42 PM ludwa6 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yes @Charlie: on more careful research + reflection >>> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/vlAZ_K4K63o/m/cPuFWVIKAQAJ>, >>> i now realize that you are quite right. Am doing further research and will >>> be elaborating on those requirements in due course. /walt >>> >>> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 5:12:20 PM UTC+1 [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> The purpose of that mock-up was just to pin down the various things >>>> needed for simultaneous notemaking and notetaking (if one wants), or just >>>> focused on notemaking for the current task, or just focused on notetaking >>>> for the current task. >>>> >>>> I had just gone with columns to make the pieces easy to identify, but >>>> any kind of interface can be slapped together. Anything could be done. >>>> Columns, rows, panels, tabs, etc. etc. etc. >>>> >>>> So let's not see that as design, but just as discussion about the >>>> necessary pieces/components/features/functionality/workflows/etc. >>>> >>>> Regardless, from what I see so far in this thead, I still think: why >>>> can't that all be done in TiddlyWiki ? >>>> >>>> Anything and everything that's ever been done with TiddlyWiki, bits and >>>> pieces can be pulled together and combined, I believe, to build something >>>> that can handle all of: >>>> >>>> - distraction-free notetaking >>>> - distraction-free notemaking >>>> - simultaneous notetaking + notemaking when the urge strikes >>>> >>>> So pick any screenshots from anything out there as sources of >>>> inspiration, but don't be limited by them (i.e. imagine what doesn't yet >>>> exist, but could exist.) >>>> >>>> Just as ideas (inspiration?), here are a couple of screenshots: >>>> >>>> - https://zim-wiki.org/screenshots/zim-normal.png >>>> - >>>> >>>> https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-g43ZEQDDVdI/UBPbvyfyCbI/AAAAAAAAWUg/uxeWVSOXYGg/s1600/KeepNote-Best-Note-Taking-Software-Linux.jpg >>>> >>>> Sniffs like a big project. For it to have any hope of happening, it >>>> needs some tangible list of problems that need solving, needs that have to >>>> be addressed, features to be described ... yup, requirements gathering. >>>> >>>> Regardless, even just the discussions of the problems/needs is right >>>> awesome. Discussions of features/solutions to address individual >>>> problems/needs is icing on the cake. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 5:52:18 AM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote: >>>> >>>>> Charlie, TT et al: Much as I do like these multi-pane views for >>>>> NoteMAKING in TW, this is not what one wants for NoteTAKING, as I see it - >>>>> as per the article i referenced up top, and the one shared by @Carsten and >>>>> many more. >>>>> >>>>> The two window setup i posited in the eLearning UserStory presumed a >>>>> video lecture in one window (via Zoom, YouTube or what have you), plus one >>>>> other window where I do my agile NoteTaking. Any additional frames would >>>>> bu >>>>> not only unnecessary, but moreover a distraction. This is key to the power >>>>> of outlining, as i see it (and most outliner aficionados would probably >>>>> agree, tho i realize that outlining mode is not for everyone): it’s a >>>>> blank >>>>> canvas on which i can capture and organize a set of ideas just as quickly >>>>> as they come to me- whether in context of a video lecture, a focus >>>>> meeting, >>>>> or in a solitary coffee-fueled brainstorm. >>>>> >>>>> Only when this job of NoteTAKING is finished do i want to think about >>>>> NoteMAKING; that is when i value the many affordances that TW brings to >>>>> the >>>>> challenge of integrating this new material into my preexisting web of >>>>> deeply intertwingled ideas. This is the problem-space/ opportunity zone >>>>> where i think development effort would do best to focus: interoperability, >>>>> versus trying to be all things to all users. >>>>> >>>>> /walt >>>>> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 9:07:06 AM UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ciao Charlie & Walt >>>>>> >>>>>> Charlie, actually it was part to the point ... >>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2021-06-20 095945.jpg] >>>>>> >>>>>> A 4th Column on random concerns that arise in is too would be >>>>>> interesting. >>>>>> A 4th column for me might, for instance, read "Slightly concerned >>>>>> Bruno is OK." >>>>>> >>>>>> There are two issues, I think ... >>>>>> (1) How to make it easy to switch "column" to enter note; >>>>>> (2) How to (auto?) "flag/tag" each column content so you can >>>>>> rearrange the info in many ways later. >>>>>> Just thoughts! >>>>>> >>>>>> But the general idea looks good to me! >>>>>> >>>>>> Best wishes >>>>>> TT >>>>>> >>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ugh et oops.. e-Learner. I went a little off-track there thinking >>>>>>> in-person classroom/auditorium/hall. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Charlie Veniot <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now we're talking. 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