On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 4:19:52 PM UTC+2 [email protected] wrote:

i.e. just what is needed to create/edit/save WikiText (à la TiddlyWiki) to 
> a TID file.  Nothing else.
>

TLDR;

You are right, we may be able to strip about half of the *UI* size, but 
this would mean we will go backwards. ... 

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As you probably know, browsers will only let you save to the Downloads 
directory and subdirectories with default browser plugins. 
With Timimi you can choose the directory, but you will need 2 components. A 
browser AddOn and an executable.

There is a new file-API for chromium based browsers, but they will also 
need a server somewhere in the background to use the functionality in a 
"secure" way. ... 
 

> No refresh mechanism going on, no loading up a whole TiddlyWiki (with all 
> the tiddlers and plugins), blazingly fast open of a small HTML file to 
> quickly enter some info/knowledge/content on the fly with whatever 
> device, with ability to save that tiddler, parking its the TID file 
> somewhere for later processing in the full TiddlyWiki.
>

In your first post you mentioned, that you don't need all toolbar buttons 
but some of them. ... So if you only want 1 of them, the software needed is 
the same as showing all of them. ... The mechanism to show 1 button is the 
same as to show many of them. It's only a different filter and a list. 

The same is true for the TW UI. It will be possible to create new 
...Templates, that are different to the existing ones, but the 
functionality to handle Page-, Edit- and View templates is the same as with 
a default TW. So I'm sure you don't safe anything in the core. 
 

> Sure I can tweak a TiddlyWiki by adding custom Tiddlers, but I'm talking 
> about a major strip down to have a simple editor for simple note-taking.
>

As I wrote. There will be no major strip down in wiki size. The startup may 
be faster, because less DOM elements are created. ... Especially no 
sidebar. 

At the moment there are 8 tiddlers tagged: $:/tags/PageTemplate ... 11 
tiddlers tagged: $:/tags/ViewTemplate ... 9 tiddlers tagged: 
$:/tags/EditTemplate ... 7 tiddlers tagged: $:/tags/SideBar ... and about 
33 toolbar buttons. 

So you may safe some of them but that's basically it. TW consists of about 
2100 shadow tiddlers in empty.html.  Nobody knows, how they are exactly 
interconnected. It would be possible to find it out, but that would be a 
lot of work I wouldn't want to do. 

TiddlyWiki 5.1.0 had 991 shadow tiddlers and about 1.1MByte in size. About 
460 shadows are $:/language tiddlers ... 

In 6 years users requested new UI functionality, which resulted in about 
1000 shadow tiddlers more and about 1MByte more size of the file. The 
system did grow organically, with a lot of interconnections here and there. 

You are right, we may be able to strip about half of the *UI* size, but IMO 
this would mean we will go backwards. ...

just some thoughts
mario

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