Although that does look pretty sweet ...

I have a Chromebook, which I rather like because of the lightness / 
minimalism of living in a web browser.

Although I could install the Linux version of VSCode, it would be quicker 
for me to load a TiddlyWiki from Google Drive whenever I want to just write 
down a quick note.  I only bring up the Linux container when I really must 
do something with a heavy app, i.e. something I just can't do with online 
apps or apps in the Chrome web store.

Nah, seems like Skrifa 
<https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/skrifa-chrome/pfdkhjakblfafmapniifbpkjblgolipd>
 
is my best bet when I want to write a quick note that needs a little text 
formatting to organize whatever related thoughts about something.

Although I figure Google Keep/Mail/Calendar will be my go to places for 
quick plain text notes, I can see me using the Text 
<https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/text/mmfbcljfglbokpmkimbfghdkjmjhdgbg>
 
editor too.

On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 7:54:25 PM UTC-3 [email protected] wrote:

> If you want to skip loading a TW into memory, and just work on TID files, 
> I would actually suggest VSCode and my TW5 Syntax plugin:
>
>
> https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=joshua-fontany.tw5-syntax
>
> This has hot-key shortcuts that allow you to create the block of metadata 
> (created/creator, etc), or update a modified timestamp with a hotkey.
>
> The workflow is literally: New file -> .tid, hotkey for meta-data -> tab 
> between titlke, creator, etc, tab to go to Text field.
>
> Best,
> Joshua Fontany
> On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 11:36:17 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Nah, Chromebook.  Half-a-dozen TiddlyWikis.  All on Google Drive and 
>> accessed with TiddlyDrive.  I don't really want to have all of them open 
>> all day for whenever I might have a thought.
>>
>> I much prefer throw notes in quickly loaded small/distraction-free apps, 
>> so it is just a quick trip to the computer while I put chores/whatever on 
>> hold for just a second.  Later when I can sit down, I can do the TiddlyWiki 
>> work.
>>
>> Skrifa 
>> <https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/skrifa-chrome/pfdkhjakblfafmapniifbpkjblgolipd?hl=en>
>>  seems 
>> like the right tool for the job for quick-note taking, when I want a little 
>> formatting to quickly organize more complicated notes.  Otherwise Google 
>> Keep or Gmail or Google Calendar for short/simple text notes.
>>
>> The Skrifa notes, the HTML for them can be copied into TiddlyWiki as-is.  
>> Not as convenient as having a "TidEdit" app, but it is quick and TW handles 
>> the HTML natively (i.e. don't need a plugin like I would if I was pasting 
>> markdown text into my tiddlers.)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 3:16 AM maki aea <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> hi i'm guessing you're on android? i'm on an old iphone and i basically 
>>> have tiddlywiki open all day using quine2. been using saq's streams lately 
>>> with a tweaked shortcut to save tiddler+stream, shift+z. works really well 
>>> for quick notetaking on ios. have customised the layout quite a bit ( 
>>> http://makiaea.org ) for mobile but the heavy lifting is from streams 
>>> and shift+z. hope you can find something that works for you
>>> On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 6:47:34 PM UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just found a better reference (i.e. in-browser simple text editor):  
>>>> https://browserpad.org/
>>>>
>>>> That one knows filename when opening a file, and remembers that 
>>>> filename on "save" ("save/export", in my mind.)
>>>>
>>>> If that thing had TW formatting buttons and a preview pane, it would be 
>>>> exactly what I'm looking for. (Well, I wouldn't want the spell-checking 
>>>> check box, nor that github button in the bottom-right.) 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 1:41:35 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In regards to open and save *(just for 
>>>>> reference:  https://www.outpan.com/app/e7d5b37405/mytextarea 
>>>>> <https://www.outpan.com/app/e7d5b37405/mytextarea>)* ...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm thinking an open button like the one in that editor, and an 
>>>>> export/save button that works exactly like the tiddler export button in 
>>>>> TiddlyWiki, with just the TID option or with more/all options.
>>>>>
>>>>> So no save mechanisms.  Just enter WikiText-à-la-TiddlyWiki, preview, 
>>>>> and click export as TID.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Whenever I just want to take down a quick note, TiddlyWiki is rarely 
>>>>> my first choice.  Using my Chromebook, I typically go to Gmail or Google 
>>>>> Keep, or even Google Calendar, first.
>>>>>
>>>>> Having a small HTML page, i.e. TidEdit app, available to me, I could 
>>>>> see myself going there first when I want to take down a note that is 
>>>>> slightly more substantial organization-wise, but not so substantial that 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> want to open a TiddlyWiki (which I keep on Google Drive, using the 
>>>>> TiddlyDrive add-on app.)  So a bit like a simple text editor, but a 
>>>>> little 
>>>>> bit StackEdit-like, with a way to get the content into a TID.
>>>>>
>>>>> With something like that, I might actually use my small+old smartphone 
>>>>> for more than just phone and text-messaging...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 1:01:22 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Define backward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To me, it is like the difference between a small text editor and a 
>>>>>> word processor.  Using a text editor for certain things, instead of a 
>>>>>> full 
>>>>>> Word Processor isn't going backwards.  It is just using the simplest 
>>>>>> tool 
>>>>>> that makes sense for an immediate need.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Same thing for "TidEdit".  It is just about reaching for the simplest 
>>>>>> and quickest tool for an immediate need (just jot down a note) , yet 
>>>>>> having 
>>>>>> that WikiText available (and preview) for quick visual organization of 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> one note, however short/long, for later serious processing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a way, it boils down to that difference (in my mind, anyway) 
>>>>>> between note-taking and note-making.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I imagine TidEdit as something complimentary to TiddlyWiki, a really 
>>>>>> nice addition to a TiddlyWiki ecosystem of 
>>>>>> tools/components/workflow-enablers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A simple HTML page with a text area on the left, preview pane on the 
>>>>>> right, and buttons for WikiText markup, and buttons for "new", "open", 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> "save", always working with TID files for each drag and drop into a 
>>>>>> TiddlyWiki.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would any "save" plugins be required?  "Save" would be like 
>>>>>> "download", and open would be like "upload".  Aren't those just basic 
>>>>>> javascript functions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suppose it isn't really about stripping down TiddlyWiki.  It is 
>>>>>> about creating a single HTML file that provides something that is 
>>>>>> StackEdit-ish (no "notebook" and no multiple notes handling), with 
>>>>>> buttons 
>>>>>> that work like the tiddler edit buttons for WikiText formatting, and 
>>>>>> those 
>>>>>> "new" (clear text area and preview), "open" (pick a file and put the 
>>>>>> content of that file in the text area), "save" (i.e. just download a 
>>>>>> file 
>>>>>> that has the content from the textarea) buttons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 12:41 PM PMario <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 4:19:52 PM UTC+2 [email protected] 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i.e. just what is needed to create/edit/save WikiText (à la 
>>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki) to a TID file.  Nothing else.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TLDR;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are right, we may be able to strip about half of the *UI* size, 
>>>>>>> but this would mean we will go backwards. ... 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As you probably know, browsers will only let you save to the 
>>>>>>> Downloads directory and subdirectories with default browser plugins. 
>>>>>>> With Timimi you can choose the directory, but you will need 2 
>>>>>>> components. A browser AddOn and an executable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a new file-API for chromium based browsers, but they will 
>>>>>>> also need a server somewhere in the background to use the functionality 
>>>>>>> in 
>>>>>>> a "secure" way. ... 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No refresh mechanism going on, no loading up a whole TiddlyWiki 
>>>>>>>> (with all the tiddlers and plugins), blazingly fast open of a small 
>>>>>>>> HTML 
>>>>>>>> file to quickly enter some info/knowledge/content on the fly with 
>>>>>>>> whatever 
>>>>>>>> device, with ability to save that tiddler, parking its the TID file 
>>>>>>>> somewhere for later processing in the full TiddlyWiki.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In your first post you mentioned, that you don't need all toolbar 
>>>>>>> buttons but some of them. ... So if you only want 1 of them, the 
>>>>>>> software 
>>>>>>> needed is the same as showing all of them. ... The mechanism to show 1 
>>>>>>> button is the same as to show many of them. It's only a different 
>>>>>>> filter 
>>>>>>> and a list. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The same is true for the TW UI. It will be possible to create new 
>>>>>>> ...Templates, that are different to the existing ones, but the 
>>>>>>> functionality to handle Page-, Edit- and View templates is the same as 
>>>>>>> with 
>>>>>>> a default TW. So I'm sure you don't safe anything in the core. 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure I can tweak a TiddlyWiki by adding custom Tiddlers, but I'm 
>>>>>>>> talking about a major strip down to have a simple editor for simple 
>>>>>>>> note-taking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I wrote. There will be no major strip down in wiki size. The 
>>>>>>> startup may be faster, because less DOM elements are created. ... 
>>>>>>> Especially no sidebar. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At the moment there are 8 tiddlers tagged: $:/tags/PageTemplate ... 
>>>>>>> 11 tiddlers tagged: $:/tags/ViewTemplate ... 9 tiddlers tagged: 
>>>>>>> $:/tags/EditTemplate ... 7 tiddlers tagged: $:/tags/SideBar ... and 
>>>>>>> about 
>>>>>>> 33 toolbar buttons. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you may safe some of them but that's basically it. TW consists of 
>>>>>>> about 2100 shadow tiddlers in empty.html.  Nobody knows, how they are 
>>>>>>> exactly interconnected. It would be possible to find it out, but that 
>>>>>>> would 
>>>>>>> be a lot of work I wouldn't want to do. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki 5.1.0 had 991 shadow tiddlers and about 1.1MByte in size. 
>>>>>>> About 460 shadows are $:/language tiddlers ... 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In 6 years users requested new UI functionality, which resulted in 
>>>>>>> about 1000 shadow tiddlers more and about 1MByte more size of the file. 
>>>>>>> The 
>>>>>>> system did grow organically, with a lot of interconnections here and 
>>>>>>> there. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are right, we may be able to strip about half of the *UI* size, 
>>>>>>> but IMO this would mean we will go backwards. ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just some thoughts
>>>>>>> mario
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