If you want to skip loading a TW into memory, and just work on TID files, I 
would actually suggest VSCode and my TW5 Syntax plugin:

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=joshua-fontany.tw5-syntax

This has hot-key shortcuts that allow you to create the block of metadata 
(created/creator, etc), or update a modified timestamp with a hotkey.

The workflow is literally: New file -> .tid, hotkey for meta-data -> tab 
between titlke, creator, etc, tab to go to Text field.

Best,
Joshua Fontany
On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 11:36:17 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote:

> Nah, Chromebook.  Half-a-dozen TiddlyWikis.  All on Google Drive and 
> accessed with TiddlyDrive.  I don't really want to have all of them open 
> all day for whenever I might have a thought.
>
> I much prefer throw notes in quickly loaded small/distraction-free apps, 
> so it is just a quick trip to the computer while I put chores/whatever on 
> hold for just a second.  Later when I can sit down, I can do the TiddlyWiki 
> work.
>
> Skrifa 
> <https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/skrifa-chrome/pfdkhjakblfafmapniifbpkjblgolipd?hl=en>
>  seems 
> like the right tool for the job for quick-note taking, when I want a little 
> formatting to quickly organize more complicated notes.  Otherwise Google 
> Keep or Gmail or Google Calendar for short/simple text notes.
>
> The Skrifa notes, the HTML for them can be copied into TiddlyWiki as-is.  
> Not as convenient as having a "TidEdit" app, but it is quick and TW handles 
> the HTML natively (i.e. don't need a plugin like I would if I was pasting 
> markdown text into my tiddlers.)
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 3:16 AM maki aea <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> hi i'm guessing you're on android? i'm on an old iphone and i basically 
>> have tiddlywiki open all day using quine2. been using saq's streams lately 
>> with a tweaked shortcut to save tiddler+stream, shift+z. works really well 
>> for quick notetaking on ios. have customised the layout quite a bit ( 
>> http://makiaea.org ) for mobile but the heavy lifting is from streams 
>> and shift+z. hope you can find something that works for you
>> On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 6:47:34 PM UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> I just found a better reference (i.e. in-browser simple text editor):  
>>> https://browserpad.org/
>>>
>>> That one knows filename when opening a file, and remembers that filename 
>>> on "save" ("save/export", in my mind.)
>>>
>>> If that thing had TW formatting buttons and a preview pane, it would be 
>>> exactly what I'm looking for. (Well, I wouldn't want the spell-checking 
>>> check box, nor that github button in the bottom-right.) 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 1:41:35 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>
>>>> In regards to open and save *(just for 
>>>> reference:  https://www.outpan.com/app/e7d5b37405/mytextarea 
>>>> <https://www.outpan.com/app/e7d5b37405/mytextarea>)* ...
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking an open button like the one in that editor, and an 
>>>> export/save button that works exactly like the tiddler export button in 
>>>> TiddlyWiki, with just the TID option or with more/all options.
>>>>
>>>> So no save mechanisms.  Just enter WikiText-à-la-TiddlyWiki, preview, 
>>>> and click export as TID.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Whenever I just want to take down a quick note, TiddlyWiki is rarely my 
>>>> first choice.  Using my Chromebook, I typically go to Gmail or Google 
>>>> Keep, 
>>>> or even Google Calendar, first.
>>>>
>>>> Having a small HTML page, i.e. TidEdit app, available to me, I could 
>>>> see myself going there first when I want to take down a note that is 
>>>> slightly more substantial organization-wise, but not so substantial that I 
>>>> want to open a TiddlyWiki (which I keep on Google Drive, using the 
>>>> TiddlyDrive add-on app.)  So a bit like a simple text editor, but a little 
>>>> bit StackEdit-like, with a way to get the content into a TID.
>>>>
>>>> With something like that, I might actually use my small+old smartphone 
>>>> for more than just phone and text-messaging...
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 1:01:22 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Define backward.
>>>>>
>>>>> To me, it is like the difference between a small text editor and a 
>>>>> word processor.  Using a text editor for certain things, instead of a 
>>>>> full 
>>>>> Word Processor isn't going backwards.  It is just using the simplest tool 
>>>>> that makes sense for an immediate need.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same thing for "TidEdit".  It is just about reaching for the simplest 
>>>>> and quickest tool for an immediate need (just jot down a note) , yet 
>>>>> having 
>>>>> that WikiText available (and preview) for quick visual organization of 
>>>>> that 
>>>>> one note, however short/long, for later serious processing.
>>>>>
>>>>> In a way, it boils down to that difference (in my mind, anyway) 
>>>>> between note-taking and note-making.
>>>>>
>>>>> I imagine TidEdit as something complimentary to TiddlyWiki, a really 
>>>>> nice addition to a TiddlyWiki ecosystem of 
>>>>> tools/components/workflow-enablers.
>>>>>
>>>>> A simple HTML page with a text area on the left, preview pane on the 
>>>>> right, and buttons for WikiText markup, and buttons for "new", "open", 
>>>>> and 
>>>>> "save", always working with TID files for each drag and drop into a 
>>>>> TiddlyWiki.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would any "save" plugins be required?  "Save" would be like 
>>>>> "download", and open would be like "upload".  Aren't those just basic 
>>>>> javascript functions?
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose it isn't really about stripping down TiddlyWiki.  It is 
>>>>> about creating a single HTML file that provides something that is 
>>>>> StackEdit-ish (no "notebook" and no multiple notes handling), with 
>>>>> buttons 
>>>>> that work like the tiddler edit buttons for WikiText formatting, and 
>>>>> those 
>>>>> "new" (clear text area and preview), "open" (pick a file and put the 
>>>>> content of that file in the text area), "save" (i.e. just download a file 
>>>>> that has the content from the textarea) buttons.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 12:41 PM PMario <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 4:19:52 PM UTC+2 [email protected] 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i.e. just what is needed to create/edit/save WikiText (à la 
>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki) to a TID file.  Nothing else.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TLDR;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are right, we may be able to strip about half of the *UI* size, 
>>>>>> but this would mean we will go backwards. ... 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you probably know, browsers will only let you save to the 
>>>>>> Downloads directory and subdirectories with default browser plugins. 
>>>>>> With Timimi you can choose the directory, but you will need 2 
>>>>>> components. A browser AddOn and an executable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a new file-API for chromium based browsers, but they will 
>>>>>> also need a server somewhere in the background to use the functionality 
>>>>>> in 
>>>>>> a "secure" way. ... 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No refresh mechanism going on, no loading up a whole TiddlyWiki 
>>>>>>> (with all the tiddlers and plugins), blazingly fast open of a small 
>>>>>>> HTML 
>>>>>>> file to quickly enter some info/knowledge/content on the fly with 
>>>>>>> whatever 
>>>>>>> device, with ability to save that tiddler, parking its the TID file 
>>>>>>> somewhere for later processing in the full TiddlyWiki.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In your first post you mentioned, that you don't need all toolbar 
>>>>>> buttons but some of them. ... So if you only want 1 of them, the 
>>>>>> software 
>>>>>> needed is the same as showing all of them. ... The mechanism to show 1 
>>>>>> button is the same as to show many of them. It's only a different filter 
>>>>>> and a list. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The same is true for the TW UI. It will be possible to create new 
>>>>>> ...Templates, that are different to the existing ones, but the 
>>>>>> functionality to handle Page-, Edit- and View templates is the same as 
>>>>>> with 
>>>>>> a default TW. So I'm sure you don't safe anything in the core. 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure I can tweak a TiddlyWiki by adding custom Tiddlers, but I'm 
>>>>>>> talking about a major strip down to have a simple editor for simple 
>>>>>>> note-taking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I wrote. There will be no major strip down in wiki size. The 
>>>>>> startup may be faster, because less DOM elements are created. ... 
>>>>>> Especially no sidebar. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the moment there are 8 tiddlers tagged: $:/tags/PageTemplate ... 
>>>>>> 11 tiddlers tagged: $:/tags/ViewTemplate ... 9 tiddlers tagged: 
>>>>>> $:/tags/EditTemplate ... 7 tiddlers tagged: $:/tags/SideBar ... and 
>>>>>> about 
>>>>>> 33 toolbar buttons. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you may safe some of them but that's basically it. TW consists of 
>>>>>> about 2100 shadow tiddlers in empty.html.  Nobody knows, how they are 
>>>>>> exactly interconnected. It would be possible to find it out, but that 
>>>>>> would 
>>>>>> be a lot of work I wouldn't want to do. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TiddlyWiki 5.1.0 had 991 shadow tiddlers and about 1.1MByte in size. 
>>>>>> About 460 shadows are $:/language tiddlers ... 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In 6 years users requested new UI functionality, which resulted in 
>>>>>> about 1000 shadow tiddlers more and about 1MByte more size of the file. 
>>>>>> The 
>>>>>> system did grow organically, with a lot of interconnections here and 
>>>>>> there. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are right, we may be able to strip about half of the *UI* size, 
>>>>>> but IMO this would mean we will go backwards. ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just some thoughts
>>>>>> mario
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