Define backward. To me, it is like the difference between a small text editor and a word processor. Using a text editor for certain things, instead of a full Word Processor isn't going backwards. It is just using the simplest tool that makes sense for an immediate need.
Same thing for "TidEdit". It is just about reaching for the simplest and quickest tool for an immediate need (just jot down a note) , yet having that WikiText available (and preview) for quick visual organization of that one note, however short/long, for later serious processing. In a way, it boils down to that difference (in my mind, anyway) between note-taking and note-making. I imagine TidEdit as something complimentary to TiddlyWiki, a really nice addition to a TiddlyWiki ecosystem of tools/components/workflow-enablers. A simple HTML page with a text area on the left, preview pane on the right, and buttons for WikiText markup, and buttons for "new", "open", and "save", always working with TID files for each drag and drop into a TiddlyWiki. Why would any "save" plugins be required? "Save" would be like "download", and open would be like "upload". Aren't those just basic javascript functions? I suppose it isn't really about stripping down TiddlyWiki. It is about creating a single HTML file that provides something that is StackEdit-ish (no "notebook" and no multiple notes handling), with buttons that work like the tiddler edit buttons for WikiText formatting, and those "new" (clear text area and preview), "open" (pick a file and put the content of that file in the text area), "save" (i.e. just download a file that has the content from the textarea) buttons. On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 12:41 PM PMario <pmari...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 4:19:52 PM UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote: > > i.e. just what is needed to create/edit/save WikiText (à la TiddlyWiki) to >> a TID file. Nothing else. >> > > TLDR; > > You are right, we may be able to strip about half of the *UI* size, but > this would mean we will go backwards. ... > > -------------- > > As you probably know, browsers will only let you save to the Downloads > directory and subdirectories with default browser plugins. > With Timimi you can choose the directory, but you will need 2 components. > A browser AddOn and an executable. > > There is a new file-API for chromium based browsers, but they will also > need a server somewhere in the background to use the functionality in a > "secure" way. ... > > >> No refresh mechanism going on, no loading up a whole TiddlyWiki (with all >> the tiddlers and plugins), blazingly fast open of a small HTML file to >> quickly enter some info/knowledge/content on the fly with whatever >> device, with ability to save that tiddler, parking its the TID file >> somewhere for later processing in the full TiddlyWiki. >> > > In your first post you mentioned, that you don't need all toolbar buttons > but some of them. ... So if you only want 1 of them, the software needed is > the same as showing all of them. ... The mechanism to show 1 button is the > same as to show many of them. It's only a different filter and a list. > > The same is true for the TW UI. It will be possible to create new > ...Templates, that are different to the existing ones, but the > functionality to handle Page-, Edit- and View templates is the same as with > a default TW. So I'm sure you don't safe anything in the core. > > >> Sure I can tweak a TiddlyWiki by adding custom Tiddlers, but I'm talking >> about a major strip down to have a simple editor for simple note-taking. >> > > As I wrote. There will be no major strip down in wiki size. The startup > may be faster, because less DOM elements are created. ... Especially no > sidebar. > > At the moment there are 8 tiddlers tagged: $:/tags/PageTemplate ... 11 > tiddlers tagged: $:/tags/ViewTemplate ... 9 tiddlers tagged: > $:/tags/EditTemplate ... 7 tiddlers tagged: $:/tags/SideBar ... and about > 33 toolbar buttons. > > So you may safe some of them but that's basically it. TW consists of about > 2100 shadow tiddlers in empty.html. Nobody knows, how they are exactly > interconnected. It would be possible to find it out, but that would be a > lot of work I wouldn't want to do. > > TiddlyWiki 5.1.0 had 991 shadow tiddlers and about 1.1MByte in size. About > 460 shadows are $:/language tiddlers ... > > In 6 years users requested new UI functionality, which resulted in about > 1000 shadow tiddlers more and about 1MByte more size of the file. The > system did grow organically, with a lot of interconnections here and there. > > You are right, we may be able to strip about half of the *UI* size, but > IMO this would mean we will go backwards. ... > > just some thoughts > mario > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/JuhpaVK_zts/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/35a5a231-04d0-4fd7-b6b4-9bbb97ac92cdn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/35a5a231-04d0-4fd7-b6b4-9bbb97ac92cdn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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