hi i'm guessing you're on android? i'm on an old iphone and i basically have tiddlywiki open all day using quine2. been using saq's streams lately with a tweaked shortcut to save tiddler+stream, shift+z. works really well for quick notetaking on ios. have customised the layout quite a bit ( http://makiaea.org ) for mobile but the heavy lifting is from streams and shift+z. hope you can find something that works for you On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 6:47:34 PM UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:
> I just found a better reference (i.e. in-browser simple text editor): > https://browserpad.org/ > > That one knows filename when opening a file, and remembers that filename > on "save" ("save/export", in my mind.) > > If that thing had TW formatting buttons and a preview pane, it would be > exactly what I'm looking for. (Well, I wouldn't want the spell-checking > check box, nor that github button in the bottom-right.) > > > > On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 1:41:35 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote: > >> In regards to open and save *(just for >> reference: https://www.outpan.com/app/e7d5b37405/mytextarea >> <https://www.outpan.com/app/e7d5b37405/mytextarea>)* ... >> >> I'm thinking an open button like the one in that editor, and an >> export/save button that works exactly like the tiddler export button in >> TiddlyWiki, with just the TID option or with more/all options. >> >> So no save mechanisms. Just enter WikiText-à-la-TiddlyWiki, preview, and >> click export as TID. >> >> >> Whenever I just want to take down a quick note, TiddlyWiki is rarely my >> first choice. Using my Chromebook, I typically go to Gmail or Google Keep, >> or even Google Calendar, first. >> >> Having a small HTML page, i.e. TidEdit app, available to me, I could see >> myself going there first when I want to take down a note that is slightly >> more substantial organization-wise, but not so substantial that I want to >> open a TiddlyWiki (which I keep on Google Drive, using the TiddlyDrive >> add-on app.) So a bit like a simple text editor, but a little bit >> StackEdit-like, with a way to get the content into a TID. >> >> With something like that, I might actually use my small+old smartphone >> for more than just phone and text-messaging... >> >> On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 1:01:22 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote: >> >>> Define backward. >>> >>> To me, it is like the difference between a small text editor and a word >>> processor. Using a text editor for certain things, instead of a full Word >>> Processor isn't going backwards. It is just using the simplest tool that >>> makes sense for an immediate need. >>> >>> Same thing for "TidEdit". It is just about reaching for the simplest >>> and quickest tool for an immediate need (just jot down a note) , yet having >>> that WikiText available (and preview) for quick visual organization of that >>> one note, however short/long, for later serious processing. >>> >>> In a way, it boils down to that difference (in my mind, anyway) between >>> note-taking and note-making. >>> >>> I imagine TidEdit as something complimentary to TiddlyWiki, a really >>> nice addition to a TiddlyWiki ecosystem of >>> tools/components/workflow-enablers. >>> >>> A simple HTML page with a text area on the left, preview pane on the >>> right, and buttons for WikiText markup, and buttons for "new", "open", and >>> "save", always working with TID files for each drag and drop into a >>> TiddlyWiki. >>> >>> Why would any "save" plugins be required? "Save" would be like >>> "download", and open would be like "upload". Aren't those just basic >>> javascript functions? >>> >>> I suppose it isn't really about stripping down TiddlyWiki. It is about >>> creating a single HTML file that provides something that is StackEdit-ish >>> (no "notebook" and no multiple notes handling), with buttons that work like >>> the tiddler edit buttons for WikiText formatting, and those "new" (clear >>> text area and preview), "open" (pick a file and put the content of that >>> file in the text area), "save" (i.e. just download a file that has the >>> content from the textarea) buttons. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 12:41 PM PMario <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 4:19:52 PM UTC+2 [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> i.e. just what is needed to create/edit/save WikiText (à la TiddlyWiki) >>>>> to a TID file. Nothing else. >>>>> >>>> >>>> TLDR; >>>> >>>> You are right, we may be able to strip about half of the *UI* size, >>>> but this would mean we will go backwards. ... >>>> >>>> -------------- >>>> >>>> As you probably know, browsers will only let you save to the Downloads >>>> directory and subdirectories with default browser plugins. >>>> With Timimi you can choose the directory, but you will need 2 >>>> components. A browser AddOn and an executable. >>>> >>>> There is a new file-API for chromium based browsers, but they will also >>>> need a server somewhere in the background to use the functionality in a >>>> "secure" way. ... >>>> >>>> >>>>> No refresh mechanism going on, no loading up a whole TiddlyWiki (with >>>>> all the tiddlers and plugins), blazingly fast open of a small HTML file >>>>> to >>>>> quickly enter some info/knowledge/content on the fly with whatever >>>>> device, with ability to save that tiddler, parking its the TID file >>>>> somewhere for later processing in the full TiddlyWiki. >>>>> >>>> >>>> In your first post you mentioned, that you don't need all toolbar >>>> buttons but some of them. ... So if you only want 1 of them, the software >>>> needed is the same as showing all of them. ... The mechanism to show 1 >>>> button is the same as to show many of them. It's only a different filter >>>> and a list. >>>> >>>> The same is true for the TW UI. It will be possible to create new >>>> ...Templates, that are different to the existing ones, but the >>>> functionality to handle Page-, Edit- and View templates is the same as >>>> with >>>> a default TW. So I'm sure you don't safe anything in the core. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Sure I can tweak a TiddlyWiki by adding custom Tiddlers, but I'm >>>>> talking about a major strip down to have a simple editor for simple >>>>> note-taking. >>>>> >>>> >>>> As I wrote. There will be no major strip down in wiki size. The startup >>>> may be faster, because less DOM elements are created. ... Especially no >>>> sidebar. >>>> >>>> At the moment there are 8 tiddlers tagged: $:/tags/PageTemplate ... 11 >>>> tiddlers tagged: $:/tags/ViewTemplate ... 9 tiddlers tagged: >>>> $:/tags/EditTemplate ... 7 tiddlers tagged: $:/tags/SideBar ... and about >>>> 33 toolbar buttons. >>>> >>>> So you may safe some of them but that's basically it. TW consists of >>>> about 2100 shadow tiddlers in empty.html. Nobody knows, how they are >>>> exactly interconnected. It would be possible to find it out, but that >>>> would >>>> be a lot of work I wouldn't want to do. >>>> >>>> TiddlyWiki 5.1.0 had 991 shadow tiddlers and about 1.1MByte in size. >>>> About 460 shadows are $:/language tiddlers ... >>>> >>>> In 6 years users requested new UI functionality, which resulted in >>>> about 1000 shadow tiddlers more and about 1MByte more size of the file. >>>> The >>>> system did grow organically, with a lot of interconnections here and >>>> there. >>>> >>>> You are right, we may be able to strip about half of the *UI* size, >>>> but IMO this would mean we will go backwards. ... >>>> >>>> just some thoughts >>>> mario >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>> Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/JuhpaVK_zts/unsubscribe. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/35a5a231-04d0-4fd7-b6b4-9bbb97ac92cdn%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/35a5a231-04d0-4fd7-b6b4-9bbb97ac92cdn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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