Thanks Mark,

All working as advertised, it will be very helpful, thanks alot. Sometimes 
it seems like an art not a science :), You make me recall I learned to 
avoid cut and Paste from google groups in the Early TiddleyWiki Clasic 
days. Evan pasting into notepad on the way.

Thanks for working through it, what I have now will be invaluable.

Regards
Tony

On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 2:27:27 PM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Ok. There's a couple things going on. One a mistake. One a semi-bug. And 
> one probably a slight UTF8 cut and paste error.
>
> In your application template, you forgot to close off <$wikify> with the 
> closing </$wikify> tag. In addition, and I know this shouldn't really 
> matter, but sometimes you need to stack your closing tags on top of each 
> other instead of appending them to each other. That's a semi-bug IMHO. 
> Anyway, your closing set of tags need to look like:
>
> </$set>
> </$set>
> </$set>
> </$wikify>
>
> If they're not stacked like this, the formatting below doesn't work right. 
> Probably someone can explain why, but it's a mystery to me.
>
> Next, go to the "Edit and Save Field" tiddler and delete the existing 
> $:/tags/Macro . There's something wrong with it. My guess is that you 
> copied and pasted it from the forum, and it contains a hidden character. 
> Type the $:/tags... again, and as you do the system should offer you 
> $:/tags/Macro at the BOTTOM with the other system tiddlers. Select that 
> $:/tags/Macro tag. ALSO, be sure to update the macro with the IMPROVED 
> macro I provided (the one you have is the first draft).
>
> After these changes, the formatting and macro should function well enough 
> to ... be tweaked. 
>
> Have fun,
> Mark
>
>
> On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 6:48:53 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> Sorry, but it is hard to explain what I want without reference to how to 
>> accomplish it when there are a lot of terms I am still becomming familular 
>> with.
>>
>> Of course I did ask at the top of the post "Edit fields in Current 
>> Tiddler"
>>
>> I have published a version of my work at https://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au 
>> use the table of contents to select applications and "application template" 
>> tiddlers. The Bottom of which "application template" has some attempts to 
>> use editnsave. Your replys suggest you do know what I need and Edit and 
>> save may be the answer. I would like edit and save to reference fields in 
>> the Application templaye (or its copies) and allow sub tiddlers (in tabs) 
>> to use it as well. All  Most tiddlers are tagged "Object Dev".
>>
>> The Site itself is DRAFT only
>>
>> I have actualy spent more time building the demo than reinvestigating the 
>> editnsave issue. But I have published to make it visible.
>>
>> I will look into it further after I get some real work done :)
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 9:14:29 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> It's better if you explain what it is that you want to accomplish than 
>>> insist on how it gets accomplished. 
>>>
>>> The variable <<currentTiddler>> is available to all "children" of a 
>>> tiddler, assuming that by children you mean transcluded or templated 
>>> tiddlers. If you have some other interpretation of what children are, then 
>>> you need to explain what you want to accomplish.
>>>
>>> If you have a tiddler with several transclusions, and then clone that 
>>> tiddler, all the transclusions of the clone will then use their 
>>> <<currentTiddler>> value.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 3:52:30 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A Quick description, I hope it helps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Psudo-Constants
>>>>
>>>> TiddlerA has a title or field name
>>>>
>>>> To set a constant you need to define a "variable" using the value of 
>>>> the tiddler title or field, however when you use any reference to the 
>>>> title 
>>>> or field it will be a string that refers to the field not the current 
>>>> value 
>>>> of the field. As a result it gets wikified in context and may refer to 
>>>> another tiddlers title or field depending on where it is used.
>>>>
>>>> I have used two variable names and wikify to partially solve this. 
>>>> Quite cumbersome and it took time to find this solution. The ability to 
>>>> use 
>>>> the constant still seems limited.
>>>>
>>>> \define currentobjectsrc() 
>>>> {{!!title}}
>>>> \end
>>>> <$wikify name="currentobject" text=<<currentobjectsrc>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can now use the value in subtiddlers using <<currentobject>> but only 
>>>> where this is valid. It retains its value (in this case "the text 
>>>> "TiddlerA" in all subtiddlers, Can I use nested {{{}}} or something to 
>>>> make 
>>>> this work in macros and filters ? I am still trying to learn the different 
>>>> ways in the different widgets macros, template tiddler etc... Actually I 
>>>> know the answer to this it is documented at tiddlywiki.com however it 
>>>> is very contextual.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps there is a specific use of $set that is available to me, but I 
>>>> have not found it yet. It would be great if I could use a simple command 
>>>> like
>>>> <$set Constant=constantname value=((!!title}}>
>>>>
>>>> Such the constantname now contains "TiddlerA" and can be accessed by 
>>>> various and consistent means in all subTiddlers (those called/Transcluded) 
>>>> by TiddlerA
>>>>
>>>> To be clear I want to use {{!!title}} not {{TiddlerA!!title}} because I 
>>>> do not want to hard code "TiddlerA" into the TiddlerA tiddler because when 
>>>> cloned or copied it will have a new name or a different value in a field.
>>>>
>>>> I have found many of the documented syntax or examples refer to 
>>>> "somename" rather than a name derived from a field, that does not change 
>>>> with tiddler or context.
>>>>
>>>> I will try and publish into on my project soon, and perhaps there are 
>>>> other ways do achieve what I am doing. 
>>>>
>>>> I am now in the process of memorising a "dozen" "substitution rules" to 
>>>> understand this.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks For the help.
>>>>
>>>> TonyM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 11, 2017 at 5:11:35 AM UTC+10, Danielo Rodríguez 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm still not understand why the set widget does not work for you. It 
>>>>> sets a variable with certain name and that variable is accessible to all 
>>>>> it's children . How is your requirement different ?
>>>>
>>>>

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