https://babelnet.org/ == many languages
On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 at 13:21, @TiddlyTweeter <[email protected]> wrote: > Alex > > Is it in many languages? > > J, x > > On Friday, 14 December 2018 13:39:23 UTC+1, AlexHough wrote: >> >> Mario, >> >> " a mechanism, that would suggest "meaningful tags" by analysing the >> prose text(s). ... but it needs to work without a 3rd party server. It >> should be integrated into TW. ... Is this possible?" >> >> Wordnet [1] might be useful. >> >> WordNet® is a large lexical database of English. Nouns, verbs, adjectives >> and adverbs are grouped into sets of cognitive synonyms (synsets), each >> expressing a distinct concept. Synsets are interlinked by means of >> conceptual-semantic and lexical relations. The resulting network of >> meaningfully related words and concepts can be navigated with the browser >> <http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn>. WordNet is also freely and >> publicly available for download <https://wordnet.princeton.edu/download>. >> WordNet's structure makes it a useful tool for computational linguistics >> and natural language processing. >> >> >> I use it a lot to find words at higher or lower levels of abstraction. It >> would be wonderful if, when tagging, words from Wordnet were suggested... >> >> Alex >> >> [1] https://wordnet.princeton.edu/ >> >> On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 11:58, PMario <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 5:54:41 PM UTC+1, Joe Armstrong wrote: >>> ... >>> >>>> What I did was to use Baysian inference to "learn" the relationship >>>> between the words in the text and the supplied tags - so for each word in >>>> the text I caculate the probability that the tiddler has tag <T> (forall >>>> known tags <T>) - then in a second pass I tested the model and predicted >>>> the tags from the text. This way I could correctly predict about 80% of the >>>> tags from the text alone. The problem was that, to me, many of the tags >>>> were meaningless and were used internally to organise the TW. >>>> >>> >>> That's interesting. ... But I think this has some "evolutionary" causes. >>> >>> I think, it hasn't always been that way. Open classic.tiddlywiki.com >>> ... You'll see wikipedia-like tag-box in every tiddler. ... The UI isn't >>> "nice" with tags here. .. So a very common question in the group was: "How >>> can I switch this box off?" >>> >>> I personally prefer something that's called "TagglyTagging" (... oh we >>> love those weird names :) I think TagglyTagging was introduced with MPTW >>> <http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#TagglyTagging> (Monkey Pirate TiddlyWiki). >>> For me it was a completely new way to work with tiddler titles. ... TT is a >>> set of plugins, that allows you to visualize the relation between different >>> tiddlers ... It speeds up navigation between related tiddlers, in a very >>> convenient way. ... The "sitemap" view is what we call TOC (Table of >>> Content) in TW5 now. >>> >>> An other plugin, that imo influenced TW5 was: the fET-plugin (for each >>> tiddler) <https://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#ForEachTiddlerMacro>. >>> It allows *users *to iterate over the tiddler store and *create *many >>> types of "*list-views*". This plugin was highly influential for the TW5 >>> list-widget, and <<list-links ...>> macros that we have today. >>> >>> Both of those systems (mis)use tags to create internal structure, >>> because the tagging mechanism *was and is* highly optimized. Both in >>> the core-software and the UI. The core uses several caches to speed up tag >>> and "backlink" lookups. ... We do have fields and filters, that are able to >>> create invisible internal structure. But none of those possibilities offer >>> the performance and "ease of use" from the UI perspective. >>> >>> In my opinion the TF*IDF were better than the assigned tags since they >>>> had nothing >>>> to do with the organisation, but more to do with the actual words in >>>> the text. >>>> >>> >>> For me it would be very interesting to have a mechanism, that would >>> suggest "meaningful tags" by analysing the prose text(s). ... but it needs >>> to work without a 3rd party server. It should be integrated into TW. ... 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