On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 5:10 PM @TiddlyTweeter <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ciao Tony > > Thanks for this ... > > TonyM wrote: >> >> ... Perhaps we could say that every field including the text field in a >> tiddller should be related to the tiddler title, the whole title and >> nothing but the title ... >> > > Its interesting both the style of tagging and its various emoluments > (profits). But the "title" is already a kind of default tag. > > TW is interesting because its tags serve several functions (semantic, > organizational, systemic) seamlessly. > > Yes - I discovered this.I analysed a few TW's in detail. What I did was to use Baysian inference to "learn" the relationship between the words in the text and the supplied tags - so for each word in the text I caculate the probability that the tiddler has tag <T> (forall known tags <T>) - then in a second pass I tested the model and predicted the tags from the text. This way I could correctly predict about 80% of the tags from the text alone. The problem was that, to me, many of the tags were meaningless and were used internally to organise the TW. In a second experiment I totally ignored the assigned tags, and predicted the tags from a TF*IDF analysis of the text. This made tags that made much more sence to me, but the predicted tags often missed the supplied tags. In my opinion the TF*IDF were better than the assigned tags since they had nothing to do with the organisation, but more to do with the actual words in the text. > But, at the same time, any TW tag is a "label applied" to a tiddler -- a > distance between the tiddler and its manifest content. > > FYI I'm a big fan of Twiitter where #hashtags are always inline. No > separation of content from organization. Its a neat approach on content > cognisance. Twitter is maybe extreme in its #hashtaggery but its effective > in terms of finding stuff well enough. But, of course, Twitter usage of > #hashtags is purely about flagging content, whilst in TW tags do several > jobs. > > YES :-) -- Given my earlier observations, perhapse we could distinguish two types of tags. The #inlineHashTags could have something to do with the content of the containing paragraph. The tiddler tags could mean "tags used to internally organise the TW itself" Cheers /Joe Just comments > Josiah > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/FXGEIa85Bks/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/9b2ed207-661d-45bb-92a2-cf049f5a2138%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/9b2ed207-661d-45bb-92a2-cf049f5a2138%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAL6cY6HrGTzDPZz6CXYOpZct-6BLXs0n5b5N8o4wcwxFqObKeA%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
