Here again...
pedro you are right 

> 
> Very, very interesting topic indeed. 
> 


...but it is the Nth time that the tiny community is stuck on this matter: When 
Cecile ask for money for speed improvement (socket implementation) or when most 
of the modules were released w/o sources are just two examples.

It is almost a year that I'm watching TinyERP from the window. The first time I 
tried it I liked this piece of software very much. Awesome I thought (And I 
still think). But after almost a year I still read always the same things  in 
this forum.  Open.... closed, open .... but not always.... GPL but not free 
....free but not now ..... Please Fabien do not underestimate these repeating 
3ds. 

Fabien, believe me, I'm saying this because of the esteem I hold in the great 
job you are doing, but norbert_ experience is telling us that maybe (I repeat 
maybe, this is just my opinion) your way could be the wrong way.   
Be careful, entering in the open source world is a double side weapon, not for 
the open source phylosophy itself but for the community you need to build 
around it:

- If you are completely open you can found dozens of developers can help you... 
for free, thousands of "free" testers and maybe (I hope for you) millions of 
(indirectly paying) users with the result that  YOUR project will automagically 
grows with obvious advantage in training, certification and consulting needs.   

- I sell, install and support a closed source vertical M.I.S. for the company I 
am employed in, and I know how difficult is to sell a 100000€ worth closed 
source software. You can also choose this way. You can earns lots of money but 
you have to invest a lot too. Forget the community, the free testers and of 
course the free developers.

- If you stay in the middle way, as It seems to most of us, you want to be, 
IMHO you will have just an angry community that wont' help you, of course not. 
It will criticize you work and inspire a disgusting opinion to whom is new to 
Tiny that read this forum. Maybe at your eyes your community will seem a hoard 
of ungrateful leeches, but indeed is just a group of people that loves your 
project almost as you. And just want to help you in a win-win logic.

..........indeed some leeches could be found .... but don't say it to anybody 
:-P. It's  physiologic... just don't care about them.

cheers 
Claudio.

P.S.: Why the tipical "Please donate with paypal" button is missing in Tiny 
home page?  Is this common way to fund open source projects out of fashion? Who 
knows, maybe someone could click on it. Maybe 500€ for a buggy report designer 
are too much. But 10 x 50€ of donation are fair.





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