-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


    I wonder what an outsider would think about our reactions to Sylvester.
Specifically, I'm relieved that we did not as a group continue to believe
that he was a serious person in our field raising important psychological
issues, but rather recognized this drivel for what it is, and knew to be
suspicious of his claim to be in our field
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Those of us with history on the list have learned the lesson that Paul
described. What concerns me is the impression Sylvester makes on new
teachers. Imagine being a new psychology instructor and coming to this list
and your first impression is Sylvester's drivel. Who we are and what our
backgrounds are has been irrelevant to me as long as the discussions relate
to the teaching of psychology and the post reflects knowledge of the topic.
The group has tolerated is propensity towards anti-Semitic comments, his
comments that my students would be embarrassed to make and his complete lack
of respect for this group. What bothers me is that we recently had a
discussion of plagiarism and the consequences for students who are caught
plagiarizing.  How would we deal with a student who behaved like Sylvester.
Imagine a student writing a paper based on personal experiences working in a
psychiatric hospital and you learned that he/she never had that experience.


Gary J. Klatsky, Ph. D.
Director, Human Computer Interaction M.A. Program

Department of Psychology                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oswego State University (SUNY)       http://www.oswego.edu/~klatsky
7060 State Hwy 104W                      Voice: (315) 312-3474
Oswego, NY 13126                           Fax:   (315) 312-6330

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


    I wonder what an outsider would think about our reactions to Sylvester.
Specifically, I'm relieved that we did not as a group continue to believe
that he was a serious person in our field raising important psychological
issues, but rather recognized this drivel for what it is, and knew to be
suspicious of his claim to be in our field. In other words, we could have
really embarrassed ourselves the way that the editors of Social Texts did
when they accepted the Sokal paper/hoax.

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