I know nothing about, and was not criticizing Dr. Koocher.  I was
criticizing the premises of your defense of him.

Paul Okami
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> Well, last I heard evolutionary theory and space alien abductions were not
> being debated among psychologists.  But there were psychologists
(including
> some very well-regarded ones) who were looking at the recovered memory
> issue.  I have not carefully followed that debate, so I will not argue it
> here except to note that in the professional literature I had not seen
much
> of anything about the disputed side.  (Come on. "Entertainment Tonight"
and
> "The National Enquirer" don't count.)
>
> But more to the core of this:  To take one act that an individual engaged
in
> and demonize the rest of him reminds me of tactics used in another recent
> presidential election.  Tell you what.  If the two Paul's and Stephen will
> give their permission, I will forward this thread to Koocher himself and
let
> him respond to your concerns.  I look forward to hearing from the 3 of
you.
>
> Patricia Keith-Spiegel
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Okami" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 9:44 AM
> Subject: Re: APA President-elect
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Patricia Spiegel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 12:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: APA President-elect
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > Gerry
> >> should not be judged by his interest in sharing "all sides of all
> > stories."
> >> This is one of his strengths.  The recovered memory debate was
happening,
> >> and one side was receiving far more attention than the other, which is
> >> why
> >> he had an interest in taking a look at the side that had not received
> >> much
> >> of a forum within the field while the other side was getting all of the
> >> attention despite methodological problems in that research as well.
And,
> >> that is ALL there is to that.
> >>
> >
> >    I think there is a serious problem with this position.  Shall we give
> > equal time to creationism as to evolutionary theory?  Is there a
"debate"
> > about whether or not evolution has taken place?  Is there a "debate"
about
> > whether or not human beings are being abducted by aliens en masse by for
> > strange sexual examinations on space craft?  In my view, all sides of an
> > issue should be presented--but only when all sides of an issue are
> > rational.
> >    Moreover, I disagree that the "false memory" side has received "far
> > more
> > attention" than the Satanic Ritual Abuse and Recovered Memory side.
This
> > is
> > so patently false as to be a rather shocking proposition.  Every student
I
> > have ever met has heard of SRA and Recovered Memory (and the vast
majority
> > believe that these are real phenomena).  No more than one or two in each
> > class are aware that false memories may be created through therapeutic
> > intervention or by any other means, or that no evidence has ever been
> > found
> > to substantiate the existence of Satanic Ritual Abuse (and indeed, the
FBI
> > claims that this is a mental health issue, not a law enforcement issue).
> > Any professional psychiatrist or psychologist who proposes that we
> > consider
> > the existence of SRA as just "another side in a debate"  ought to be
> > stripped of his or her credentials (as was Bennett Braun).
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
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