I would not use it either, for the same reason that Don outlines. However, I will not use a text that does not introduce and provide some emphasis for the topics of CI, effect size, and power. Those topics are important for understanding many current research reports. My guess is that they will become more important in the future. That does not mean that NHST will follow the dinosaurs in the next year or so.
Dennis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dennis M. Goff Charles A. Dana Professor of Psychology Department of Psychology Randolph College (Founded as Randolph-Macon Woman's College in 1891) Lynchburg VA 24503 -----Original Message----- From: don allen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Mon 2/20/2012 12:44 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Quickie Poll On How to Teach Undergraduate Statistics No, I wouldn't use it. This is NOT because I think that NHST is in any way superior to ES/CI. It is because the majority of articles that the students will be reading in the journals (and trying to understand) will have used NHST. In a perfect world a good text would explain how to interpret NHST findings and then go on to discuss the value of the ES/CI approach. -Don. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Palij <[email protected]> Date: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:13 am Subject: [tips] Quickie Poll On How to Teach Undergraduate Statistics To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" <[email protected]> Cc: Michael Palij <[email protected]> > Okay, I beg your indulgence and participation in an unscientific > poll where > you can either post your response to the TiPS list (for > discussion) or > email your response directly to me. I am finishing a book review > on an undergraduate statistics textbook that (a) attempts to eliminate > all null hypothesis signitifcance testing (NHST) in favor of focusing > on effect sizes (ES), confidence intervals (CI), and (old fashioned) > meta-analysis > and (b) encourages research on "statistical cognition" which, > accordingto the author, shows that teaching NHST causes greater > confusionin students than an ES/CI approach > . > Given that limited description, I'm going to make this into a > 2-alternative forced choice question: > > Would you use such a textbook as the main textbook in > the first/introductory statistics in psychology course? > > [ [ Yes > [ ] No > > Comments? > > If you care to, you might comment on whether current intro stat > textbooks do an adequate job of covering issues such as effect > sizes and confidence intervals (these days I use some version > of Gravetter and Wallnau which, in my opinion, do an adequate > job introducing the topics which I assume lay the foundation for > a more advanced undergraduate course in statistical methods). > > Thanks in advance for your cooperation. > > -Mike Palij > New York University > [email protected] > > P.S. And, no, this not about procrastinating on finishing the book > review. Well, mostly it's not. ;-) > > --- > You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13157.966b795bc7f3ccb35e3da08aebe98f18&n=T&l=tips&o=16147or > send a blank email to > leave-16147-13157.966b795bc7f3ccb35e3da08aebe98...@fsulist.frostburg.edu > Don Allen Retired professor Langara College --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13169.2bfd597f06c032f81efb35e857e2dd91&n=T&l=tips&o=16151 or send a blank email to leave-16151-13169.2bfd597f06c032f81efb35e857e2d...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=16152 or send a blank email to leave-16152-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
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