No. NHST is problematic, to be sure, but a student who takes a stats course in a psych dept and doesn't come out understanding NHST will be unable to read and understand the psychological research literature as it currently exists. If NHST causes confusion, then it is up to the textbook writer and teacher to clarify it. Trying to ignore it is counterproductive. Even if one thinks that NHST should be completely eliminated from psychological research (and, personally, I'm with the Wilkinson Report that NHST is not actually useless, it is just too-heavily relied on to answer questions it can't answer), one must know one's opponents (better than even its advocates do).
Chris --- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada [email protected] http://www.yorku.ca/christo/ ========================== On 2012-02-20, at 11:13 AM, Michael Palij wrote: > Okay, I beg your indulgence and participation in an unscientific poll where > you can either post your response to the TiPS list (for discussion) or > email your response directly to me. I am finishing a book review > on an undergraduate statistics textbook that (a) attempts to eliminate > all null hypothesis signitifcance testing (NHST) in favor of focusing > on effect sizes (ES), confidence intervals (CI), and (old fashioned) > meta-analysis > and (b) encourages research on "statistical cognition" which, according > to the author, shows that teaching NHST causes greater confusion > in students than an ES/CI approach > . > Given that limited description, I'm going to make this into a > 2-alternative forced choice question: > > Would you use such a textbook as the main textbook in > the first/introductory statistics in psychology course? > > [ [ Yes > [ ] No > > Comments? > > If you care to, you might comment on whether current intro stat > textbooks do an adequate job of covering issues such as effect > sizes and confidence intervals (these days I use some version > of Gravetter and Wallnau which, in my opinion, do an adequate > job introducing the topics which I assume lay the foundation for > a more advanced undergraduate course in statistical methods). > > Thanks in advance for your cooperation. > > -Mike Palij > New York University > [email protected] > > P.S. And, no, this not about procrastinating on finishing the book > review. Well, mostly it's not. ;-) > > --- > You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62bd92&n=T&l=tips&o=16147 > or send a blank email to > leave-16147-430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62b...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: [email protected]. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=16165 or send a blank email to leave-16165-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
