Hi Jeff,

TopBraid has its own event/change mechanism that uses Graph listeners  
under the hood, but wraps them into its own data structure. The policy  
to re-run incremental inferences is simply that it checks for all  
subjects, predicates and objects of the change triples and re-run the  
rules on those instances only. The tricky part is to undo the previous  
inferences first, e.g. to remove the old "area" triple of a rectangle.  
As you anticipated, I must leave the rest as an exercise to the  
reader :)

Regards,
Holger


On May 7, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Schmitz, Jeffrey A wrote:

>
> Thanks for the info, it's an area that we definitly need to look at  
> for
> re-work at some point.  On a related "design" question if you don't
> mind, I was wondering if you use the Jena event handling (e.g.
> ModelChangedListener interface) to determine when to re-run the SPIN
> inferences on changes, or do you have some other method?  Also, are  
> you
> able to filter which rules/constructors, etc. to run based on the
> resources that are added/deleted, or do you just re-run them all on  
> any
> change to the model just to make sure?  Not sure how much of this  
> you're
> at liberty to reveal, but I figure it never hurts to ask :-)
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Holger Knublauch [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:45 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [tbc-users] Re: ARQ2SPIN performance
>
>
> Jeff,
>
> in our implementations we hardly ever use the default Jena
> configurations out of the box. Instead we arrange base Graphs in a
> delegation chain, so that higher-level graphs can implement services
> such as caching and buffering. In this approach, all previous SPO
> queries can be cached on the client without ever having to ask the  
> same
> queries to the database. We do have implementations of these modules,
> but they are not open source.
>
> Holger
>
>
> On May 6, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Schmitz, Jeffrey A wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes, using just a mem model makes a HUGE difference.  I've never
>> really gotten a good handle on how and when to use all the different
>> types of Jean Models/OntModels/graphs etc.  Is there any other
>> writeups or tutorials that you know of on this besides what is here
>> (and that I plan on re-reading now)...
>>
>> http://jena.sourceforge.net/how-to/model-factory.html
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Jeff
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Holger Knublauch [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:37 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [tbc-users] Re: ARQ2SPIN performance
>>
>>
>>> Note though that the
>>> baseModel is setup as a database backed model
>>
>> Here we go. You may want to set up a cache graph in between the
>> database and your application. SPIN will do various look-ups during
>> query construction, e.g. to reuse variable names, check for functions
>> etc.
>>
>> Holger
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
> >


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