> At least they can start doing something with OWL data in 
> their own toolset/spec knowledge....

BINGO.  I know nothing about OWL/XML at this point, but just had one question.  
Would an OWL model exported in OWL/XML be consistant enough in its 
representation syntax to allow one to write an XSLT against it?  This would be 
a BIG help in making OWL models more inter-operable with existing tools.

Jeff
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bohms, H.M. (Michel) [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:10 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [tbc-users] Re: OWL 2 XML Serializtion
> 
> Ok, but :)
> 
> Many people currently using Plain XML specs/tools (for 
> instance those who are able to handle XSDs and compliant XML 
> data) would find it easier to do something with the OWL/XML 
> output than with the RDF forms. 
> 
> So I agree that OWL/XML would be a step in between OWL in RDF 
> form and Plain XML...
> 
> At least they can start doing something with OWL data in 
> their own toolset/spec knowledge....
> 
> So the question is now: is OWL/XML not 
> better/simpler/moredirect for this purpose than XML/RDF (as 
> you suggest).
> 
> Michel
> 
> 
>  
>  
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>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Henninger [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: woensdag 18 november 2009 16:57
> To: TopBraid Composer Users
> Subject: [tbc-users] Re: OWL 2 XML Serializtion
> 
> <Currently the Danish Ministry of Science, Technology and 
> Innovation is developing there own xml based ontologies. 
> Quite stupid but nevertheless a fact of the real world.>
> 
> Yes ;-) and it is perplexing that the message on OWL and RDF 
> compatibility has failed to reach them.
> 
> <I would like to be  able to persuade them to at least use 
> the xsd for OWL/XML to make there  ontologies compatible with 
> the world of linked data>
> 
> Already done.  All of OWL can be represented in RDF and 
> RDF/XML provides an XML serialization.  So as long as the 
> constructs are compatible with RDF, there is no problem.
> 
> RDF is the basis for linked data, by the way.  OWL adds some 
> modeling constructs, and inferencing profiles on top of that, 
> but RDF is what is necessary.
> 
> OWL/XML, on the other hand is not an RDF format, and it is 
> perplexing why it is deemed necessary.  Perhaps the problem 
> is verbosity of RDF/ XML.  But the larger, much more 
> important issue, is the unnecessary disconnection between RDF 
> and OWL.  This means that one will be left with no effective 
> query language, as SPARQL operates on RDF.
> 
> -- Scott
> 
> On Nov 18, 7:39 am, Peter Bruhn Andersen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Hi Jeremy
> >
> > You asked:> So, I am intrigued ... do you want OWL/XML 
> format because 
> > you want to
> > > read it? Because you have other tools that work with 
> OWL/XML but not 
> > > with RDF/XML? or ...
> > > what is the underlying requirement driving this request?
> >
> > My personal reason for wanting TopQuadrant to provide us with this 
> > feature is to let me reach out to the many who still sees no reason 
> > whatsoever to use RDF and/ OWL.
> > Letting those of us who can develop ontologies using OWL while we 
> > provide the xml community with a vesrion they understand 
> seems to me 
> > to be a good solution. This way we can introduce semantic 
> technologies 
> > step by step without having a non-productive battle between XML and 
> > RDF communities.
> >
> > A case in point: Currently the Danish Ministry of Science, 
> Technology 
> > and Innovation is developing there own xml based ontologies. Quite 
> > stupid but nevertheless a fact of the real world. I would 
> like to be 
> > able to persuade them to at least use the xsd for OWL/XML to make 
> > there ontologies compatible with the world of linked data.
> >
> > And I hope I can count on TopQuadrant to provide me with the tools.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Peter Bruhn Andersen
> 
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