Blainer) Well, I am assuming you are neither a liar, or an adulterer or a murderer or a pimp (whoremonger). But actually I don't know you that well. Maybe you should examine your own conscience on these points. I hate to be the one to judge you, brother Glenn. Just keep in mind that as with almost all that is written on tt, it is conjecture.
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:37:43 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Glenn - Thanks, Blainer. I think I understand what you are saying. > I > understand Mormons believe only Mormons are going to the 3rd heaven > which is > where God dwells. Is where the murderers, etc., go the 1st heaven? > Does > that make you think I am going to the 2nd heaven? > > > Blainer) Glenn, DaveH is too nice to you. I am telling you the > > truth--you are going to hell if you do not > > A. Allow Mormon missionaries into your house, plus feed them and > offer > > them your car to drive around, > > B. Read twenty pages from the BoM nightly, > > C. Attend a Mormon meeting in the near future, > > D. Send me twenty bucks for telling you the truth. > > > > Just kidding (:>) > > > > Seriously, DaveH was right, you ARE a brother in Christ, and you > will > > probably not go to hell at all provided you remain on the straight > and > > narrow path you seem to have chosen. You seem to be an honorable > and > > decent person. You will likely "receive of the presence of the > Son," > > just as you expect. But you may miss "the fullness of the > Father." I > > am trying not to be judgemental--this is not Mormon spin. I > believe > > this. Here is the scripture I am basing this on--it is about > those who > > come forth in the resurrection of the Just, who are Christ's at > his > > coming: > > > > "These are they who were honorable men of the earth, who were > blinded by > > the craftiness of men." > > "These are they who receive of His glory, but not of His fulness." > > "These are they who receive of the presence of the Son, but not of > the > > fullness of the Father." > > "Wherefore, they are bodies Terrestrial, and not bodies Celestial, > and > > differ in glory as the moon differs from the sun." > > Docrine and Covenants Section 76:75-78 > > > > I think "craftiness" refers to the spin of the > > "Bible-is-the-only-word-of-God" crowd, who tell you the BoM is a > bust and > > the Mormon church is a cult . > > > > There is a third category of reward--the Telestial Kingdom, the > glory of > > which is represented by the stars--and just as one star differs > from > > another in glory, so shall the inhabitants of this kingdom differ > in > > glory one from another. But the BIG difference is that they must > pay > > their dues in Hell first, before becoming resurrected. These are > the > > very, very wicked, as in murderers, adulterers, whoremongers, > liars, etc. > > > > Those who inherit the upper two kingdoms (Terrestrial and > Celestial) do > > not have to do this--go to hell, that is-- because of their > acceptance of > > Christ as their savior. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 23:03:46 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Glenn to Blainer - Yes, most of the time you have very little > spin > > > until you > > > are penned down and then you spin. That's how it seems to me. > I am > > > not > > > trying to be offensive. DAVEL didn't think you meant to say I > was > > > lost > > > below. He called me a brother in Christ. You say I am lost. > I am > > > not > > > offended by your saying I am lost. Just confused between the > two of > > > you. > > > > > > > Blainer) I am never sure what you mean when you talk about > Mormon > > > spin. > > > > I think what I wrote was pretty straightforward. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 00:46:28 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > Glenn - Contention? Are you saying DaveL wants to make it > sound > > > nice > > > > in > > > > order to avoid contention? HERE IS WHAT MORMON'S DON'T > > > UNDERSTAND. > > > > If you > > > > just tell me what you think, WITHOUT this spin spin spin, I > have > > > no > > > > problem. > > > > THE PROBLEM lies with this spin spin spin. It makes Mormons > look > > > > dishonest > > > > to me. > > > > > > > > You told me I was going to hell with that hades thing you sent > my > > > > way. It > > > > doesn't bother me at all for you to say I am going to hell. > What > > > > does bother > > > > me, IS THIS SPIN SPIN SPIN. > > > > > > > > > Blainer) It is the CONTENTION. Satan has power when there > are > > > > > arguments, wouldn't you say??? Noone ever got a divorce > except > > > > there was > > > > > first a major argument and/or disagreement. Contention is > the > > > > great > > > > > power of Satan. Hearts are hardened, minds are set, > everyone > > > > moves to > > > > > opposite corners, ready to come out fighting with the bell. > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 08:07:48 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > Glenn - This is exactly what I have been saying all alone. > I > > > > don't > > > > > > know why > > > > > > DaveL wants to make it sound nice except maybe for Mormon > > > image. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bottom line is: I am under the influence of Satan > > > because > > > > I > > > > > > follow the > > > > > > Bible in it's current form only. I reject the 3 other > > > socalled > > > > > > revelations > > > > > > of Mormons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glaine - So, there you have it--the main reason Satan > has > > > > power > > > > > > over those > > > > > > > who do > > > > > > > not have these clarifications, and the main reason God > in > > > his > > > > > > mercy gave > > > > > > > us the BoM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.

