On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:28:31 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Blainer wrote:
> > What do you mean,
> >> "Anyone can read the passage for themselves and see that
> >> Paul is not talking about the various kinds of flesh in the
> >> resurrection, but simply that the flesh of the spiritual body
> >> differs from the flesh of the physical body?"
> > As I read this, I see no essential difference between what
> > you guys teach and what I am saying, other than the part
> > concerning the different glories of the resurrected flesh,
> > or the different levels of spirituality inherited in the
> > resurrection. I think that is pretty plain--one of the
> > plainest passages in the Bible, in fact.
>
> Following is a smaller section of the passage:
>
> "All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind
> of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of
> fishes, and another of birds. There are also celestial
> bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the
> celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is
> another. There is one glory of the sun, and another
> glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars:
> for one star differeth from another star in glory.
> So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown
> in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown
> in dishonor; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness;
> it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body;
> it is raised a spiritual body."
>
> You claimed that this passage speaks of different glories of
> resurrected
> flesh. That is false. The passage speaks of how the spiritual body
> differs
> from the natural body. You are the one making the assertion that
> there are
> different types of resurrected bodies, some more glorious than
> others. The
> burden is upon you to show how this or any other passage teaches
> this. You
> made the wild assertion that Protestants (I assume you mean us), are
> ignorant of this supposedly little talked about passage. I want to
> try and
> understand how you come to this way of thinking. How about trying
> to teach
> the Bible to us concerning this subject? How is it that this
> passage
> plainly teaches different kinds of flesh in the resurrection? The
> contrast
> is obviously between the natural body and the spiritual body. There
> is a
> natural body and a spiritual body, not a natural body and several
> different
> kinds of spiritual bodies.
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller.
> Blainer) No wild assertions! Except for a very few Protestants, I
always get a blank look when I mention this passage. Forgive me if I
failed to mention that I assumed you had at least a nodding knowledge of
it.
The passage clearly does NOT OBVIUOSLY discuss the contrast between the
spiritual body and the natural--it discusses the differences of
spirituality and glory between resurrected bodies--the glory of the sun,
which is one glory, the glory of the moon, which is one glory, and the
glory of the stars, which is not one glory, but many--as many as there
are stars in the heavens, which differ in glory one from another. "So
also is the resurrection of the dead. "
See also Rev 1:11-16
"I was in the spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind ame a great
voice, as of a trumpet.
Saing, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: . . . . And I
turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw
seven golden candlesticks; And in the midst of the seven candlesticks
one like unto the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the foot,
and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. His head and his hairs
were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of
fire; and his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace;
and his voice as the sound of many waters. And he had in his right hand
seven stars; and out of his mouth went a sharp two-edged sword: AND HIS
COUNTENANCE WAS AS THE SUN SHINETH IN HIS STRENGTH."
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