Blainer) It was also the Jesus people who advocated free love, public nudity for adults and children alike, and civil disobedience. However, I was not suggesting David carries his being a free spirit this far, just joshing him a little to make a point. I do think he does not like submitting to organizational structure, as in the Council of Twelve in the LDS Church, and/or the First Presidency--a prophet, and his two councilors. I was just stating how I read him, said nothing about the Bible other than the meanings of two words being close if not exactly the same.
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 23:24:55 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Glenn to Blainer - You are making fun of the Bible. David was > teaching what > the original Greek words mean. Again, you are knock knock knocking > the Bible > and this time in it's original Greek form. > Yes, David, is a free spirit I would guess. However, I can > tell you > this. It was the Jesus people in CA who started a great revival now > known as > the charismatic movement. They are kind of anti-establishment too. > :-) > David is smart enough to see through this man made religion no > matter where > it comes from. > > > Blainer) I think David is a bit of a free spirit, who dislikes > the > > fetters of an organization. Do you happen also to own a VW Van > with > > flowers painted on the sides? LOL > > > > On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:03:22 -0400 "David Miller" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > writes: > > > Blainer wrote: > > > > What difference does it make whether we use "church" of > > > > "congregation." A rose by any other name still smells the > > > > same. > > > > > > The word "church" has connotations todays which were not present > > > > when Jesus > > > and early believers used the word "ekklesia," which is the New > > > Testament > > > word that is translated as "church." If the word "ekklesia" had > any > > > organizational connotation, it was a polititical one, describing > the > > > political committees that ruled the early Greek city-states. > > > > > > In Acts 19, the same Greek word is used to describe an assembly > of > > > idolators > > > gathered together for the purpose of stopping the preaching of > the > > > gospel. > > > Hardly a church, wouldn't you say? Yet, the word "assembly" > > > translates just > > > fine. > > > > > > My point is that when the Bible talks about a church of Jesus > > > Christ, it > > > does not have the ecclesiasitical organization in mind that you > and > > > Roman > > > Catholics seem to have in mind. When I read the word "church" > in > > > the Bible, > > > I have in mind those who believe in Jesus Christ. You > apparently > > > have in > > > mind the Mormon organization. That is why understanding the > meaning > > > of this > > > word "ekklesia" and that an accurate translation of the Bible > > > doesn't ever > > > need to use the word "church" can go a long way toward helping > > > someone like > > > you break away from the bonds of your deception. > > > > > > Peace be with you. > > > David Miller. > > > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
