little children of Jesus Christ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/Sabbath Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !!"Then said YahShua to those Jews which believed on Him, 'IF ye CONTINUE in My Word, are ye My disciples indeed; And ye shall know The Truth and The Truth shall make you free'." John 8:31-32Verse 32 is VERY WELL KNOWN and often quoted. However, the context is the little known and seldom mentioned verse 31.These were BELIEVERS ... we would call them "Christians".Their response to the glorious instruction of The Saviour?THEY GOT MAD."Hey, we don't have to do anything else. We're already free."Within a scant few minutes The Saviour told these that "believed on Him" that "Ye are of your father the devil".Note that Michael D cuts out on verse 20 of Acts 15 and SKIPS to verse 24.James (actually Jacob/Ya'acov) said (at the point where Michael D so RUDELY interrupted him) :"Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: But that we write unto them, that they [1] abstain from pollutions of idols, and [2] from fornication, and [3] from things strangled, and [4] from blood." Acts 15:19-20
I think everyone in these discussions would agree with the first two (at least to some extent).
What's with Ya'acov tacking the last two on there (from clean food laws!) in this post-Golgotha (Calvary), "New" Testament era SPECIFICALLY for "gentiles"?!?!?!?
Oh, wait, it wasn't his idea �
"For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit �" Acts 15:28
Huh?!?!?!? Or perhaps better, "Hmmm �", or best yet, "YES, LORD, your servant hears"!
Y'all surely follow after this Holy Spirit given instruction (actual meaning of 'torah'). RIGHT?!?!?!?
So, y'all drain the blood from your meats. RIGHT? Y'all cover it in salt and soak it in water to drain the blood. RIGHT?!? Or perhaps you just make sure to buy kosher meats? RIGHT?!?!?
Of course, you watch out for those vaccinations, too (blood products)! RIGHT?!?!?!?
NATURALLY, blood transfusions are VERBOTEN! RIGHT?!?!?!?
So, y'all are clean and clear in this matter. RIGHT?!?!?!?
Any who do NOT follow after this CLEAR Scriptural, Spiritual instruction of The Holy Spirit while acting as the believers of John 8 is a hypocrite.
The next verse that Michael D skipped notes ..."For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day."Notice, "For" ... that means BECAUSE. This is the reason they STARTED them with only these four necessary things. BECAUSE Moses (Torah) is read EVERY SABBATH DAY. That's AFFIRMATION of BOTH The Sabbath Day being kept and Torah being followed.The Acts 15 problem was Jews teaching JUSTIFICATION by Torah over FAITH, and trying to maintain the OLD Jewish, WICKED, anti-Torah separation from gentiles "until they have gone through the Jewish conversion process". This was the same problem in Galatians CLEARLY SPELLED OUT for those with eyes to see and ears to hear what The Spirit reveals to the called out ones.Torah is a SANCTIFICATION issue and not a JUSTIFICATION issue.Michael D further lies:Faith and law do not mix. That's the message of God. The just live by faith.AGAIN, Ya'acov (James) -- and therefore Scripture and by extension The Almighty Himself -- disagrees with Michael D's wicked objections:"Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, AND NOT by faith only." Ya'acov 2:24Michael D: Quite emphatically, No where in James' thesis does he mention the works of the law! If he did he would be contradicting Paul. Paul specifically states that no one is justified by the works of the law. In fact, he said to cast out the bondwoman and her son.As David M. quoted in Galatians 3, are we made perfect now by the flesh after we are come into faith??? God forbid!!!That's why Peter said in Acts 15, ...why do you tempt God... to put a yoke on the disciples which neither we nor they were able to bear??? He was saying ...Don't put the yoke on the Gentiles... that not even the Jews past or present could bear. The law is unprofitable for righteousness.It has nothing to do with spiritual growth, Sanctification or any other such thing. Nowhere in the new coveant does it say that we are sanctified by the law. In fact, Jesus told Paul that converts are sanctified by faith which in Christ. Not the law!!!...Acts 26:18. To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith which is in me.James says we commanded no one to teach any such thing.Peter said that we should not trouble those from the Gentiles who are come to God, with the law.
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