Oh,
thanks Dave H, for making it perfectly clear?NOW I GET IT!
DAVEH:
I've got to ask, Izzy.....Why did you not understand this from the first
time I said I wasn't in TT to learn truth? Did you honestly think
I didn't mean what I said? I really am tiring of others like yourself
putting words in my mouth. You don't have to believe what I say,
but please stop claiming I said things I didn't say......OK?
You are NOT
trying to learn truth!
DAVEH:
Not from you!
Duh!
DAVEH:
Yeah....Duh! You can't even quote me correctly, so why should I think
you have the truth?
This explains
everything!
DAVEH:
Yes it does, Izzy. You your mind is made up, so it doesn't matter
what I say, you are going to interpret it incorrectly. I believe
you've done the same thing with your understanding of the Bible.
It gives a message, and due to your Protestant biases you've interpreted
it incorrectly. So.....why should I believe what you think to be
"truth"!
(Excuse me for
thinking otherwise!)
DAVEH:
There is no excuse for deliberately misleading people about what I've said,
and about what I believe, Izzy. If you are in TT to spread mistruths,
then you are a part of the problem. And what is that 'problem'?......the
perception that TT is a well of truth. How can that be when you have
corrupted it so! No Izzy, if anything.....it seems you've poisoned
the well with your inaccurate portrayal of me.
Izzy
ShieldsFamily
wrote:
Personally,
I hope for everyone--regardless of viewpoint--on TT to be comfortable discussing
issues. That's why I get a bit bent out of shape with hateful, caustic,
castigating people--I don't want them chasing people off with their "casting
you into hell" kind of talk. I think that is entirely inappropriate
and unloving.
However,
my issue with Dave H is much like what others have clearly expressed. Behind
his very nice guy veneer he seems demonically motivated. He claims
to want to learn truth with such sincerity,
DAVEH:
Therein lies the problem, Izzy. I have refuted this assumption many
times before, but it doesn't seem to matter how often I say it, you and
others refuse to believe me. I will say it once more to try to dispel
this myth.....I am not in TT to "learn
truth".
I do not know why you think I said such, as I did not to the best of my
memory. Now I've been accused by DavidM of 'harping' on the reason
for my being here. But in my defense, I have pretty much explained
my reason for being here to clear up these misconceptions that other TTers
such as yourself have about my presense here. For some illogical
reason, despite my saying it to the contrary......a lot of TTers think
that I am here for reasons other than I've stated. Rather than simply
accept my stated reason, I've very curious as to why you and others don't
want to put words in my mouth that I have not spoken? Is it a reflection
of Protestantism, that demands some kind of conformity? Or....is
it an expectation that you have about the TT Forum? Or......are you
assuming something about me because of the way I ask questions? As
I've resently mentioned to DavidM.....this situation perplexes me, and
I'm interested in your thoughts as to why we have this communication breakdown.
but
whenever truth is offered up to him on a silver platter in an irrefutable
manner he changes the subject and asks a question a bit off the mark just
to get out from under the point (which was the truth he pretended to want
to know!) I have watched
him do this for YEARS, and it is VERY PREDICTABLE. This is just like
trying to skewer a very wiggly earthworm on a piece of wet glass with a
toothpick. No matter how you poke the thing it manages to slither
out from under your point. I really dislike slithering....
Izzy
-----Original
Message-----
I
think your harping on being
here
to learn what Protestants believe has misled many as well.
DaveH
wrote:
>
I suppose my comfort could cause the discomfort
>
of others. I'll have to ponder that.
Yes,
this is very true! I have received private emails from people
telling
me that something is spiritually wrong if a Mormon feel
comfortable
to be on the list. They view this as something faulty.
Interestingly,
you seem to be the only Mormon that sticks around about
like
I'm the only Street Preacher who sticks around. LOL. Nevertheless,
I
do think you are onto something here with the idea that your comfort
here
is discomforting to others. Maybe some others on the list would
like
to comment on this idea.
