DAVEH:
I've got to ask, Izzy.....Why did you not understand this from the first time I
said I wasn't in TT to learn truth? Did you honestly think I didn't mean
what I said? I really am tiring of others like yourself putting words in
my mouth. You don't have to believe what I say, but please stop claiming
I said things I didn't say......OK?
DAVEH:
Yes it does, Izzy. You your mind is made up, so it doesn't matter what I
say, you are going to interpret it incorrectly. I believe you've done the
same thing with your understanding of the Bible. It gives a message, and
due to your Protestant biases you've interpreted it incorrectly.
So.....why should I believe what you think to be "truth"!
DAVEH:
There is no excuse for deliberately misleading people about what I've said, and
about what I believe, Izzy. If you are in TT to spread mistruths, then
you are a part of the problem. And what is that 'problem'?......the perception
that TT is a well of truth. How can that be when you have corrupted it
so! No Izzy, if anything.....it seems you've poisoned the well with your
inaccurate portrayal of me.
Personally, I hope for everyone--regardless of viewpoint--on
TT to be comfortable discussing issues. That's why I get a bit bent out
of shape with hateful, caustic, castigating people--I don't want them chasing
people off with their "casting you into hell" kind of talk. I
think that is entirely inappropriate and unloving.
However, my issue with Dave H is much like what others have
clearly expressed. Behind his very nice guy veneer he seems demonically
motivated. He claims to want to learn truth with such sincerity,
DAVEH: Therein
lies the problem, Izzy. I have refuted this assumption many times before,
but it doesn't seem to matter how often I say it, you and others refuse to
believe me. I will say it once more to try to dispel this myth.....I am
not in TT to "learn truth". I do not
know why you think I said such, as I did not to the best of my memory.
Now I've been accused by DavidM of 'harping' on the reason for my being
here. But in my defense, I have pretty much explained my reason for being
here to clear up these misconceptions that other TTers such as yourself have
about my presense here. For some illogical reason, despite my saying it
to the contrary......a lot of TTers think that I am here for reasons other than
I've stated. Rather than simply accept my stated reason, I've very curious
as to why you and others don't want to put words in my mouth that I have not
spoken? Is it a reflection of Protestantism, that demands some kind of
conformity? Or....is it an expectation that you have about the TT
Forum? Or......are you assuming something about me because of the way I
ask questions? As I've resently mentioned to DavidM.....this situation
perplexes me, and I'm interested in your thoughts as to why we have this
communication breakdown.
but whenever truth is offered up to him on
a silver platter in an irrefutable manner he changes the subject and asks a
question a bit off the mark just to get out from under the point (which was the
truth he pretended to want to know!) I have watched him do this for YEARS, and it is VERY
PREDICTABLE. This is just like trying to skewer a very wiggly earthworm
on a piece of wet glass with a toothpick. No matter how you poke the
thing it manages to slither out from under your point. I really
dislike slithering....
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Message-----
I
think your harping on being
here
to learn what Protestants believe has misled many as well.
DaveH
wrote:
>
I suppose my comfort could cause the discomfort
>
of others. I'll have to ponder that.
Yes,
this is very true! I have received private emails from people
telling
me that something is spiritually wrong if a Mormon feel
comfortable
to be on the list. They view this as something faulty.
Interestingly,
you seem to be the only Mormon that sticks around about
like
I'm the only Street Preacher who sticks around. LOL. Nevertheless,
I
do think you are onto something here with the idea that your comfort
here
is discomforting to others. Maybe some others on the list would
like
to comment on this idea.
