[TruthTalk] Love or Rebuke?

[jandgtaylor1]

From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Judy wrote: > So long as you are unable to separate the person > from their sin and so long as you keep on insisting > that God hates people you are walking in lawlessness.   Judy, please think about this carefully. Is sin the object of God's wrath or are people the object of God's wrath? Hint:  God does not cast sin into hell fire.  God casts people into hell fire. So who is the object of God's wrath?  Who does God hate?  The sin or the sinner?  Think about it.   Judy: God's wrath is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men (so it is against men's sin) and is stored in heaven against the day of wrath and the revelation of the righteous judgment of God (Romans 2:5).  This day is in the future, it's not now.   So it is the responsibility of the Church to love people and to help discern and separate ourselves and others from our sin so that we will not be condemned along with the world in the day of wrath or the Day of the Lord, whatever you want to call it.    As for hell, it was originally prepared for the devil and his angels and was not supposed to be for mankind.  People do not need to go there unless they refuse to love the truth and insist on holding or clinging to the lie. We will spend eternity with whoever we serve.   I don't know if you realize this, but your doctrine is right along Mormon doctrine.  They do not believe that a loving God would ever cast one of his children (which they define as all of humanity) into eternal damnation of hell fire.  Ask DaveH.  He teaches us this same doctrine that you do.   Judy: DaveH does not teach the same doctrine I do because I don't believe what you state above.  I have stated on this list more than once that All humanity are not God's children and that the Fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of man is a doctrine of Freemasonry. What's more I believe that there is a hell to shun and a heaven to gain.. you are misunderstanding what I am saying DavidM   Where does the BIBLE teach that we must separate the person from their sin or we will be walking in lawlessness?   Judy: How can you love people when their sin stands out like a huge neon sign and you see it and them as one and the same and believe/teach that God hates both?  This is doublemindedness. Jesus has made it possible by his DB&R for us to separate them; we are to hate the sin but love the person. We can comfort them with the same comfort we have been given and show them how to separate themselves from their sin as we have been doing in our own lives because this should be an ongoing work of grace in the life of the believer.   The Bible teaches in 1 John 3:4 that lawlessness is sin and sin is lawlessness. Lawlessness is breaking God's law.  How do we keep from breaking God's law under the New Covenant in Christ?    We LOVE God, ourselves, and others because LOVE fulfills God's law.  Is there something wrong with this? Something you find unscriptural?   Grace and Peace, Judy