Gary wrote: > this passage [John 16:12-15] teaches clearly that > JC was not talking directly to anyone else but > the Apostles, that he would direct the HS to > 'talk' to them
As I pointed out before, Gary, most of the New Testament was not written by these eleven apostles. That alone tells us that what Jesus spoke to them was also meant for others. For example, the apostle Paul was not there, but he also received the Holy Spirit and was guided in the way that Jesus described here. Paul was the principle writer of the New Testament, yet not one of the twelve. Think about what that means. Furthermore, the very prophecy of Joel indicates that the Spirit was not just for some elite class, as it was under the Old Covenant, but rather the Spirit was for all flesh, sons and daughters, old men and young men, servants and maids (Joel 2:28-29, Acts 2:17-18). Of course Peter also reiterates the reality of this himself when he tells us that the promise of the Holy Ghost is not just for the 120 who received it on the day of Pentecost 30 A.D., but for everyone who believes. "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, AND YE SHALL RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST. FOR THE PROMISE IS UNTO YOU, AND TO YOUR CHILDREN, AND TO ALL THAT ARE AFAR OFF, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." (Acts 2:38-39 KJV) Gary wrote: > The error in DavidMs ideology stems from his arrogance, > insisting that he himself is an Apostle ROTFLOL! That must be some kind of arrogance I have to insist on something that I have never even intimated. I am certainly no Apostle. Gary wrote: > this means he subtly embraces a distinct feature > of Mormon doctrine, not the NT--his teaching runs > counter to the NT This is one feature of Mormon doctrine that is right, just like they got it right in teaching that Jesus Christ is the Savior of mankind and they got it right in saying that the Bible is the holy Word of God. Gary wrote: > This is why ... DavidM is essentially a cult > leader, not an NT Christian LOL. It is very strange for you to say that I am not a NT Christian. It is even stranger for you to say that I am a cult leader. Are you a NT Christian? If so, then why would you object to what the NT teaches in John 16:12-15, Acts 2:17-18, and Acts 2:38-39 without even offering one New Testament verse? Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
