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DAVEH: Pardon me for interrupting, Judy, but this is one aspect of Protestantism that I find very interesting. If as you say, Noone must be condemned to hell, then what happens to infants that die who have not yet accepted and believe in Jesus? Are they condemned to hell? Apparently a lot of folks think that way.....otherwise, why would they baptize their children?
Judy:
I assume the BofM has some way other than the blood of
Jesus to get rid of the sin babies are born in.Blaine:
That is exactly the point, we do not believe this doctrine.
Children are born innocent.Judy:
Children are not born innocent, David said in Psalm 51:5
"In sin did my mother conceive me" - Same is true for the
rest of humanity babies are conceived in sin and born in sin.Blaine:
Jesus said, "Suffer little children to come unto me, for of
such is the kingdom of God." This refers to their innocent
condition.Judy:
Not so, rather it refers to their willingness and ability to trust
since they had not yet had time to be locked into stiff
necked doubt and unbelief.Blaine:
How can they be ready for the Kingdom of God, except
they be innocent?Judy:
He didn't say they were ready for the KOG - he said "of
such" which means "of this sort". We need to understand
scripture in the light of other scripture rather than through
the grid of Joseph Smith's writings. Jesus further explained
in Matthew 18:3 where he says "except ye be converted and
become as little children (which involves faith and trust); and
Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 14:20 "be not children in
understanding". So to take just one verse and make these
assumptions will lead one into deception.Blaine:
If Adam's sin is still there, then they are not "Christianized,"
and therefore must be condemned to hell.Judy:
Noone must be condemned to hell. Jesus died so that all might
be saved but they must come to Him on His terms. Scripture
tells us that those who do not believe are condemned already
and this speaks of everyone no matter what their age.
To make sure I understand your belief, let me pointedly ask you Judy........what happens to an infant child who dies without accepting Jesus? Heaven......or......hell? (I assume you do not believe in an in-between states as do the RCC folks....?)
Blaine:DAVEH: I do not remember DavidM indicating such....
Maybe these little children are the ones that Protestant Priest
was referring to when he told DaveH's nephew some individuals
go to hell in order to glorify God, thus showing his perfect justice?Judy:
Protestants usually do not have priests. It was a preacher, most
likely Baptist and on TT the consensus is out over what the man
actually said. The street preachers think DaveH's nephew mis-
understood him.
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