Judy Taylor wrote:

From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DAVEH:
Pardon me for interrupting, Judy, but this is one aspect of
Protestantism that I find very interesting.  If as you say, Noone
must be condemned to hell, then what happens to infants that
die who have not yet accepted and believe in Jesus?   Are they
condemned to hell?  Apparently a lot of folks think that way.....
otherwise, why would they baptize their children?

Judy:
God is a God who works by 'covenant' DaveH and under the Old
Covenant the ppl brought their children, presented them to the
Lord with the understanding that they would raise them in His
Word and teach them His ways.  This is the thinking behind
some present day infant baptism - it is actually part of the
covenant with the parents through the blood of Jesus until
the child is of age.

DAVEH:   Hmmmmmm.......Thanx for the explanation, Judy.
DAVEH:
To make sure I understand your belief, let me pointedly ask
you Judy........what happens to an infant child who dies without
accepting Jesus?  Heaven......or......hell?  (I assume you do not
believe in an in-between states as do the RCC folks....?)

Judy:
You are right that I don't believe 'purgatory' to be a valid
option. I would like to believe that they ALL go to heaven but
TTYTT

DAVEH:  ???  That's a new one on me......What is TTYTT?
I am not sure what I believe about the infant child of
the non-believer.
DAVEH:  This would seemingly apply to many millions or even billions of children who have died without having any knowledge of Jesus, would it not?

    To my LDS biased beliefs, this comes as a real shock when you suggest......

Scripture  tells us that those who do not believe are condemned already
 and this speaks of everyone no matter what their age.

.........Other TTers have said essentially the same thing.  When it comes to infants, this doctrine apparently allows for no mercy from God.  I have had some tell me that it may be tough on the little critters, but that is the way God is.  Wow.....That's pretty harsh, IMHO.

    You suggested you weren't sure about non-believers' children who die......but, what about the infants of believers?  Wouldn't they suffer the same fate?  What is the difference?

I do know that the curse comes down through generations
You can see it in the life of Ham who incurred God's anger for
disrespecting his father.  Ham's grandson was Canaan, head of
the Canaanite nations who went from bad to worse, were
judged and lost their land to the seed of Abraham. By the time
their iniquity was full God wanted every man, woman, and
child destroyed along with their stuff.
DAVEH:  The key is the stuff........I believe it was to be a lesson for the Hebrews rather than a punishment on the children who were destroyed.  In LDS theology, those kids would still have the opportunity to accept Jesus in the post mortal life.  But from what TTers (including you, apparently) have told me......those kids will be tossed into the flames of hell....   I assume that is what you too believe, Judy?  Again, that seems pretty harsh to this old Mormon boy.
Judy
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