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Subject: [TruthTalk] Last words on Jesus
had the same sinful flesh we have.
Ignorance of the law has never been an excuse.
We were all born children of wrath - by nature when we were babies.
(Ephesians 2:3)
Paul was alive once in Adam before the fall but he was never alive in his
lifetime
until he received Christ - he was born and lived most of his life under
the law.
Like David we are all conceived in sin and shapen in iniquity, this
includes babies
(Psalm 51:5)
Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? Not one. (Job
14:4)
The wicked are estranged from the womb, they go astray as soon as they be
born,
speaking lies (Psalm 58:3)
Flesh and blood do not inherit God's Kingdom; that which is born of flesh
is flesh
and that which is born of spirit is spirit (John 3:6)
By one man sin entered into the world and death by sin and death passed
upon
ALL men for all have sinned (Romans 5:12)
Grace and Peace,
Judy
Do you guys mind if I butt in? I do not believe
infants can sin either, not if by "sinning" we mean that God holds them
accountable for their actions. Young children may do things that are contrary
to God's law; in that sense, some may say that they are sinning. But Paul
says where there is no law, there is no transgression (Rom 4.15). He then
speaks (see Rom 7) about a time in his own life that he lived without
awareness of the law, and then about what happened to him when that awareness
came:
Rom. 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin?
Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through
the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, "You
shall not covet."
8 But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced
in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law sin was dead.
9 I was alive once without the law, but when
the commandment came, sin revived and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to
bring death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me,
and by it killed me.
It was only when he became aware of the
law that sin had occasion to be utterly sinful; until then, his thoughts and
actions may have been contrary to the Law, but they were not producing death
in the sense of separating him spiritually from God.
More later on,
Bill
