John, Do you really think that going
through all these contortions in Greek is going to make us all agree on
scriptural interpretation? Do all Greek Christians agree with each other? Just
goes to show: knowing all the Greek in the world doesn’t keep you from being
misled by someone who interprets scripture incorrectly. Izzy
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In a message dated 10/4/2004 6:15:39 PM Pacific Daylight
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Don't you see that if God through the Spirit interpreted a passage, He would
only need to make that presentation to one person and then ask that rest of us
give credence to that single individual. Judy thinks her view is
from God through the Spirit, but not so with Lance, or Slade, or little old me,
or Terry or Jonathan, or the Gman, or DavidH or Jeff (who owes me a responding post,
by the way) or whoever happens to disagree with her at the time. You are basing your opinion on human reasoning; not on God’s
Word. Everyone who is led by the Spirit will agree with the Spirit. Where we
disagree with scripture, someone is not hearing the Holy Spirit.
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Uh uh! No no no! Don't put poor old Terry in with a bunch that
think the grammer rules of men are better than the leading of the Holy
Spirit. I pray each day that He control me more and the world control me
less. I fear that, like Jerry Clower used to say, "Some of you have
been educated way beyond your intelligence". If shepherds and
fishermen and tax collectors can understand the Word without grammatical rules,
so can I.
No hard feelings, but I don't want to even be anywhere close
to a group that thinks that way. Lightning might strike the whole
bunch.Terry
Where in this world have I gone
wrong? I am talking about the context of a
SCRIPTURE. We don't think context is important ?????? Com'on
folks. I am not going to apologize for knowing something about the
very language of the New Testament message. Ain't going to
it. The English Bible is not that which was inspired.
IT IS A TRANSLATION. As such, it is important but not critical that
we understand the ORIGINAL language and the rules of grammar USED BY PAUL AND
PETER AND JOHN AND LUKE AND THE MYSTERY AUTHOR OF HEBREWS.
Everyone on this forum should know something about Greek (at least).
And it is fairly easy to do. The only really "difficult"
assignment is that you really should learn how the Greek alphabet relates to
the English. Buy a first year Greek grammar, get a book called the
Analytical Greek Lexicon, a Greek Lexicon and a Greek Interlinear.
The Greek alphabet --
learn it for obvious reasons.
Greek first year grammar (this
would be a book). It will tell you in plain English the meaning of
aorist, genitive, present indicative active and so on. Do not let
these words in this sentence throw you off. The first year grammar
is not a technical publication.
Greek interlinear: this will
help you find the Greek word of interest which will be either above or below
the English transliteration.
Greek Analytical Lexicon:
this book locates and conjugates or whatever all of the various forms of
all the New Testament Greek words and will give you the lexical
word.
"Lexical word"
is the word as it appears in the Greek Lexicon (dictionary), not necessarily as
it appears in the biblical text.
Greek Lexicon: a dictionary
of Greek words with the definitions written in English.
Instructions on the usage of the above:
After memorizing the alphabet and its English equivalent, take your
favorite Bible and begin reading. Something
interesting?? Aaahhhh. Get your interlinear and find
the Greek word of interest by reading the literal and English
translation. Often that word will not look like the
lexical word (a greek to english dictionary) so you need to find THAT word in
the Analytical Lexicon which will give you the grammatical usage and the
lexical word. Your greek grammar will tell you the significance of the
grammatical usage and the lexicon
will tell you the meaning and/or nuance of that definition.
Please note -- God through the Spirit does none of this for you but will
work in your search for the truth.
John NotTheScholar Smithson
