You
can disagree if you wish, but I do not see it as a sincere question, even
though it is phrased as a question. It's like the question "When did you stop
cheating on your husband?" It's a statement designed to inflame. There
have been others on TruthTalk who have used tactics similar to this.
Thankfully they're no longer posting. There is a way to engage in conversation
and disagreement without being enflaming. Judy needs to begin using love as
the main motivator for her posts, because I don't hear it in these
posts.
jt:
I was attempting to speak the truth in love Slade - I'm sorry it
falls short of your standard.
If you're convinced someone is wrong, back it up with either
Scripture or hypothesis, not by sticking your middle finger in someone's
face.
jt:
I've not been sticking my middle finger anywhere Slade and I have backed up
what I've written with scripture repeatedly. I will go over it once more for
the sake of peace. (1) Jesus knew who it was who would betray Him when
he passed the sop (John 13:18) (2) Satan who had been motivating Judas to
steal from the treasury entered into him. (3) Judas betrayed the Lord for 30
pieces of silver. (4) Jesus in his prayer to the Father calls Judas the son of
perdition and states clearly that he is the only one lost out of those the
Father has given Him.
In
context, Judy is flaming Lance because her opinion
is that the Son of Perdition is Judas. I am not so dogmatic because Son of
Perdition is a Hebrew idiom for someone destined to perish and
Scripture is clear that the one called "AntiMessiah" is one destined for
destruction. Perhaps Lance is working from the vantage point that there
is only one Son of Perdition, I don't know the heart of Lance, so he'll have
to answer that if he so chooses.
jt:
I am NOT, I repeat NOT flaming Lance Slade; I am merely stating
God's Truth as revealed in God's Word which Lance refuses to
receive.
Slade: Perhaps Lance is working from the vantage point that there is
only one Son of Perdition, I don't know the heart of Lance, so he'll have to
answer that if he so chooses.
jt:
Only ONE son of perdition??????? What foundation is there
for such a peculiar idea? Eph 2 tells us we were all the same
way before receiving and embracing the truth. Heb 10:39 shows
that it is possible to draw back to perdition as Judas apparently did and John
I believe it is speaks of 'many' antichrists that have gone out into the
world.
Perhaps Judy should respectfully consider ignoring the posts from those
she considers heretic[k]s and post only to those whom she agrees. That's what
I do with some people on some subjects. It also helps ease the tension and
increase the peace. -- slade
jt:
I would call what you describe 'peace at any price' Slade - Of what
value is a truth talk list where some are forbidden to speak because
others find their version of truth to be offensive?