I certainly hope that by pointing out the actions
of another, you hope to throw smoke on your own sin. My five-year-old
daughter does that (this is not a comment against Judy, only a tragic
series of episodes I must deal with at home).
jt: So you equate my words with responses from
your five year old daughter Slade?
I see a difference between an "ad hominem"
against a statement made and an insulting statement against an
individual.
jt: I respectfully disagree.
I view "ad hominems" as primarily directed toward and insulting someone's
person. I don't view disagreeing with any religious idea in the same
light. To me John's calling Izzy's statement
"ridiculous" is an ad hominem attack and Lance calling what I
wrote "silly and foolish" is also patronizing and unloving which qualifies
as ad hominem.
Saying "Doesn't God's Word
mean anything to you" is insulting and does not add more weight to
your perception of Scripture. It does not foster love in the Community of
Messiah. It's divisive.
jt: It wouldn't see it that way if directed
toward me Slade. I would see it as an opportunity to give an answer
for the "hope that is within me"
You complained about "A
really ridiculous statement." What about the statement "Lord, I believe, help me in my unbelief" do you think
is wise beyond council?
jt: What I commented on was John calling
what Izzy wrote "a really ridiculous statement" which comment reflects
upon her as a person.
You complained about "They
are both silly and, foolish." Do you think the "quibbles" on TT are
neither silly nor foolish?
jt: Quibbles aside, my comment was about the
adjectives directed toward me as a person. God does not
take kindly to those who call their brother 'Raca' or fool and we are
constantly barraged by talk of how we are brothers/sisters and
all one community.
I think your comment Doesn't God's Word mean anything to you is insulting
-- I don't think your PRESENCE is insulting.
jt: Just my words? So I am
acceptable if I don't say anything?
That is not ad hominem. It's an attempt to change
a behavio[u]r in order to make life on TT a bit more enjoyable for
everyone and hopefully to foster responses from the Silent Majority. At
this point, why should anyone else [the silent folk] comment when the
threat of being flamed and called heretic[k] is so high?
-- slade
jt: I guess DaveH could now qualify as one of the
"silent majority" but I would have a hard time believing that he is
threatened :), he's probably just busy. DavidM OTOH just may be one
of the "silent majority" by now since there have been so many mean
spirited comments directed toward him and his beliefs and few if any valid
challenges backed by either scripture or hypothesis..
jt: Another question
Slade along with an appeal to your finer
sensibilities.
How is it that you are not offended by the
statements below by John to Izzy and by Lance in response to what I
wrote?
IMO being labelled 'ridiculous' 'silly' and
'foolish' is ad hominem and way more insulting than honest
questions to those who promote an aberrent spirituality which is
contrary to the Word of God on this list.
John wrote: A really ridiculous statement. "Lord, I
believe, help me in my unbelief." J
Lance wrote:
That's where God is looking and, so should we. What a waste of time so
many of these 'quibbles' are! They are both silly
and, foolish.
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Moderator: Judy. Please cease giving people the opportunity to
"turn the other cheek." Asking people "Doesn't God's
Word mean anything to you?" is
insulting and needs to stop. --
slade
