John Smithson wrote: > I have to date, seen no biblical justification > for the "fall." I believe that Adam and the > Seventh Rib were never created as an end > of a creation event.
Seventh Rib? What does that mean? I'm not familiar with this phrase. One Biblical discussion of the fall of man in Adam is found in Romans 5. Romans 5:12-19 (12) Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (13) (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. (14) Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. (15) But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. (16) And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. (17) For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) (18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. (19) For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. It seems pretty clear that both sin and death came into the world through Adam and Eve's transgression. Do you see it some other way? I tried to look in Tom Wright's books for some analysis, but he seems to just assume that all this is understood. He does mention that Adam "points forward to God's ultimate intention for the human race; reflection on Adam gives a particular shape to eschatological hope." This seems to suggest a perspective that Adam was more than he was before the transgression than he was afterward. Peace be with you. David Miller. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
