Judy gave us the passage: Heb. 12:9.
The case is much more than surmise and conjecture. It is an absolute proof
given the accepted premises. If we define the word "father" to mean someone
who is the originator of something, and we call Yahweh the father because he
is the originator of all things, then Yahweh becomes the father at the point
in time when he begins to originate (create).
Yeah, sure -- given your premises, EVERTHING you claim to be true is true !!! Works for me, too. Paleeeeeeese. "Proof" you say. Do you remember a recent tisk we had, you and I, about my use of the word "proof" and your correction/preference for the word evidence. But, of course, you cannot use "evidence" above because there is no such thing as "there, I am right !!" in the words "absolute evidence."
And where in Heb 12:9 does it speak of angels? The side bar for this verse is "our spirits." Not written in stone, I know, but much more likely than the other understanding. None of it is absolute.
John
