RE: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal Sonship of Christ Matters to Me

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-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hughes Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:17 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Why the Eternal Sonship of Christ Matters to Me   The term Father as applied to God that we are referring to is the classical definition of the Trinity as Father, Son, and Spirit.  This is not the Father you are referring to. I believe you are thinking that God must have created offspring to be a Father.  Jesus Christ and the Spirit were not created; they are eternally begotten.  That Father is eternally the Father of the Son.   No one is arguing that creation always existed.  That is another heresy that Athanasius put dealt with.   Once again, when we speak of the Triune God we are speaking of one God who has revealed Himself in three Persons.  He is who He is eternally.  The fatherhood you are referencing below has nothing to do with who God is; rather, you are talking about a role.  God is who He is before the creation of the cosmos.   I am continually astounded that those who have been termed 'liberals' on this forum are the only ones who hold to orthodox Christianity, that which the church catholic has decreed for millennia.  The more we discuss the more we see how the 'non-liberals' spurn the faith of apostles.  >From a doctrinal standpoint you guys are really out there.   Jonathan     Jonathan, You continue to ignore my repeated requests to know how/why your belief in the "eternal sonship" matters one whit in living a godly life.  Please explain if you are able so that I do not have to conclude that you have logical answer or that you are being evasive, as I have had to do with others on TT.)   If you never noticed, Protestants left the RCC a very long time ago.  We don't rely on the RCC for our beliefs, as the RCC has a very wicked and non-biblical history in our opinion.  Therefore it is NOT the definer of “orthodox”. This is perhaps one reason why we value God's word enough to believe what it says, just as it says it. We have not been taught to allow someone else to (mis)interpret it for us. Please explain the essential doctrines which you believe that we hold in error. Izzy