Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

[Dave Hansen]

Kevin Deegan wrote: Dave, Have we established that unless I join the LDS Church I can not be saved? DAVEH:  Not in my opinion.  I believe there are a lot of non-LDS folks who will be saved.  (And many LDS folks who will not be saved.) Or am I taking these quotes out of context? DAVEH:  Yes, Kevin....most definitely, you've taken them out of context. I do not: exclude by definition DAVEH:  Yeah....you are right about that.  Instead, what you seem to have mastered is defining by exclusion. exclude by creed ad nauseam DAVEH:  Interestingly, I've found it rather hard to extract a definition from you, Kevin.  You want to define things by what they are not, rather than what (defines them) what they are.  Do you understand the difference?  I'm getting to be old, and perhaps instruction has changed since I was in grade school in the 50's....but one thing (of many I've forgotten) I distinctly remember is that defining things from a negative perspective were not actually definitions, and would earn the naysayer an F if a Kevinition were framed that way.  I do have to say though....your method of avoiding the questions are certainly entertaining, Kevin!  I've rarely seen anybody squirm away from sharing their beliefs as much as you apparently have mastered.  Congratulations from a Mormon boy!   :-) For more of this Nauseam read Stephen Robinson's book DAVEH:   LOL.......When?!?!?!   I barely have time to read all the TT posts every day.  This Forum certainly moves swiftly!   =-O --- Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kevin Deegan wrote: DAVEH asks for a definition You ask for a definition. DAVEH: Yes........I'd like to hear a real definition of /Christian /from both you and Perry, since you both seem so adamant to exclude Mormons from being considered Christian. After reading through all you posted below, I fail to see where you define /Christian/. Why is that, Kevin? I ofttimes think what you avoid saying speaks more to the topic than what you do post. BTW........Yes, I do have a copy of Robinson's book (AMC), but have not read it yet. Are there any particular points he made that you wish me to read that would not take too long? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.