[TruthTalk] Hell = Physical Torture?

[Dave Hansen]

DAVEH:  Let me see if I understand what you are saying, Perry.  Your folks may not be very good parents unless they were to forever torture you with physical pain if you fail to accept Jesus.  Look at it another way.....if your kids (or perhaps children of your pastor) did not want to adopt Christianity as you presented it to them, you would would want them to be (forever) physically tortured for their lack of following your advice.   Is that how you feel a parent should be?     Even if/when your kids disappoint you in their lack of judgment, or in whatever other way you may think of....is it your will that they be forever punitively tortured for that failure?     Note......I am not talking about God.  I am talking about you as a parent, or your parents....or perhaps your Christian friends who may be parents of those who've strayed.   Do you think we should try to become like (as Mt 5:48 suggests) God, Perry?   If so, then should parents adopt a little harsher paradigm when dealing with wayward children?  What imperfect parent would want that to happen to their children, despite their transgressive actions?  Other than parents who are mentally unbalanced, or are truly under Satan's influence, I simply can't think any loving and merciful parent would want to do that to their children for their foibles.      So Perry.....getting back to God....do you really think a Perfect Parent would want to eternally torture their wayward children?  To me.....that is illogical. Charles Perry Locke wrote: Dave, God is perfect, your parents are not. His ways are not their ways...His thoughts are not their thoughts. They are fallen in nature, He is not. He is the creator, they are the created. He is eternal, omniscient, and omnipresent, they are not. To assign them the same traits and character is unbiblical and illogical. Perry From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Jasc Paint Shop Photo Album 5 images] Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:12:01 -0800 DAVEH:  If I were to fill in the blank G.....I'd say *God thinks like _a parent_*.  In my opinion, God is quintessentially the ultimate parent.  For him to do something contrary to what a parent would do....defies my perception of the Lord's love and mercy. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *What theological perspective is closest to the heart of God(?)...e.g., God thinks like ____?*  On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:21:01 -0800 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> writes:     ||     DAVEH:  If I am wrong in my beliefs, then would not my perception     of my consequences also be in question?         I think one of the biggest /problems /(if that is the proper     word to use) I have with Protestantism is their view of hell and     damnation.  I've said it before, but for some of you who are a bit     new to TT, I'll give you a brief explanation.  It seems to me that     Protestants are far too eager to toss those who don't agree with     their perspective of religion on the ash heap of hell, so to     speak.  Or rather, they seem to pleasure in the thought that God     will forever punitively torture those who fail to walk that narrow     path and enter the strait gate.  I just don't feel comfortable     believing in a God who relishes torture, Lance.  I prefer to     believe God is loving, merciful and would that all his creation     benefit from their existence. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.