jt: I must
have missed the "proud and false belief" - Terry's senses have had some good
instruction in the prison system and this along with the every day tutoring
of the Holy Spirit puts him in good stead so what belief of his are you
calling "proud and false?" Caroline. judyt
The belief that it is easy
to tell God's voice from Satan. People who believe that thinks every
thing that pops into their minds/hearts from an external source must be God.
So in the garden it would have been
quite difficult for A&E to know that the serpent had said something
different from God?
The belief that obedience
means "just do it" Obedience is the character of our relationship
with God.
Isn't "being a doer of the Word and not
a hearer only deceiving our own selves" the same as "just doing
it?"
Let me just list some
of the things wrong with the "just do it" attitude. Ya'll have
fun taking it apart. But hope springs eternal that some will
register.
1) it is eating from the
Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil and not from the Tree of Life.
What is the tree of life IYO and where
does one find it since mankind has been driven from the garden?
2) it means shutting down
whatever it is in you that is saying, "Noooooo!" whether that voice
is saying, stop this is not the right way to do it or wait this is not the
right time or this is not what God wants!
What if it's the old flesh nature that
we are supposed to have reckoned dead trying to come alive again that is
shouting Nooooooooo? The demons are always working on trying to raise
that up again.
3) it means ignoring all
signals that are telling you to deal with certain
things like unforgiveness or warfare or past pain.
Why would one assume that Terry or any
of those who are not into the "Christ event" would be ignoring these things
which is in effect staying in the
prison house of unforgiveness with that strongman in charge as though the
Holy Spirit were mute.
4) it is joyless
living. It is not the easy yoke and light burden of Jesus. It's
pulling a cart with Satan cracking a whip but thinking you're working for
the Lord.
You are speaking of JD's legacy here -
but what reason do you have to think that this is also true for Terry or
anyone else. There are deceived folk
all over the place. Like the crowd who believe in Universalism and those in
Isaiah who descend into Sheol rejoicing but then I'm sure some can come
up with Gk words and tenses that make
this bunch righteous also. Love rejoices with the truth and we are
warned constantly not to be deceived.
5) it is self effort and
self glory. It is allows us to be pitiless on those fools who aren't
doing it well which is pride. It makes me think that because I can
do it, so can everyone else and it ignores all other issues.
What do you call "striving to enter His
rest" Caroline - and how does one accomplish this? Those who perished
in the wilderness didn't make it did they? How can we be sure that our outcome is
different? Don't forget that this warning is in the New Testament and
was written - after the "Christ event".....
