Re: [TruthTalk] John 16:13 fg. - Perhaps it's focus is WHO not so much WHAT

[Judy Taylor]

Interesting Bill ...... However scripture teaches us that  the Holy Spirit (who inspired and wrote the Law) indwells the believer. He is thethird member of the Godhead - Christ (son of man) is seated at the RH of the Father in heaven. The Law of Christ or Royal Law is LOVE.  But then this has been so since the foundation of the world and the main reason Old Covenant ppl failed was their inability to love which is now replaced under the New Covenant by power/dunamis emanating from the cross and the indweling of the Spirit of Promise so that we can succeed where they failed.   Christ in you - the HOPE of glory is the "mystery of godliness"  Grace and Peace, Judy     On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 08:46:02 -0700 "Bill Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Perhaps, but I rather think "the Law" which is placed in the heart of believer's is Christ himself (in the Spirit); it is therefore not about "principles" any longer, but relationship. In other words, "the Law of Christ" is "Christ in you the hope of Glory."  Bill Before the cross the Shepherd was present with the sheep and they were fewer in number, After the cross sheep are called by the Father to receive the Son and His Law placed within their hearts So the principles below apply - and are as eternal as the One who gave them; hence no problem DM is right on ....  judyt   Perhaps, but I rather think "the Law" which is placed in the heart of believer's is Christ himself (in the Spirit); it is therefore not about "principles" any longer, but relationship. In other words, "the Law of Christ" is "Christ in you the hope of Glory."    Bill From: Judy Taylor On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 10:07:49 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sooooo, the words of Christ, above, were given to those who were indwelt by the Spirit?  These are words offered "pre-Cross,"  "pre-Pentecost"  as are a number of passges from the ministry of Christ Incarnate that call for obedience and perfection   -----------    Houston, we have a problem !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  JD   No problem and no need to get legalistic about it JD Before the cross the Shepherd was present with the sheep and they were fewer in number, After the cross sheep are called by the Father to receive the Son and His Law placed within their hearts So the principles below apply - and are as eternal as the One who gave them; hence no problem DM is right on ....  judyt In a message dated 4/2/2005 5:59:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John 10:2-5 (2) But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. (3) To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. (4) And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. (5) And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. And also consider: John 10:27 (27) My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: Being led of the Spirit is not at all like you described.  It is not blind obedience to some inner voice that leads to joyless living.  Just the opposite.  It leads to a life of great joy and liberty that this world simply cannot comprehend.  This life is available to everyone who repents and believes the gospel of Jesus Christ.