Re: [TruthTalk] Re [Truth Talk] Saved -- Salvation -- and the pigpen

[Judy Taylor]

 

 

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:52:21 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Are you ever wrong about biblical ocnsiderations?   Have you ever changed you mind about biblical

meaning since you have received this spirit of enlightenment?  JD

 

In a message dated 4/14/2005 6:28:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't see Jesus leaving any admonition about history, culture, and  Word Studies in order to understand the

meaning of His Word. He told the disciples that the Holy Spirit would bring His Words back to their remembrance.

 

Yet you have your theologians.   You quote your Greek scholars  (i.e. Strong's concordance).  You are constantly referring to "balance

and context" like you are saying something that I am not when I use "larger context."

 

I don't study under "theologians" or follow them; I do make use of Bible Helps such as Concordance, Dictionary etc.

in order to communicate with you "brilliant ones"so what's the problem? Is the old accuser telling you I'm hiding

something JD? Oh BTW you are not saying the same as me when you use your "larger context" Christ event

language.  

 

You have your eyes wide shut, my dear. 

 

Depends on whose perspective we are looking at me from JD.  He sent the Holy Spirit to give us understanding.  I don't know what Kevin's response will be but I see the above qualifiers as an excuse to make the Word of God say what you want it to and conform it to strange and different doctrines rather than receive the "faith once delivered to the saints".

 

"strange and different"  ??  

 

Yes. In scripture the resurrection is not "all inclusive" even though it is not God's will that any should perish.  To say that all were raised because of the "incarnation" is to preach a gospel that was not taught by Paul or any of the other apostles to my knowledge.  If you can find it - show me chapter and verse.

 

Judy, you and I both know that much of what you espouse here on TT  would and is not taught by BSF. 

 

BSF don't dig into areas that are controversial such as "spiritual gifting" and I do talk about these things on BSF - So?  Is BSF now the arbiter of ALL truth?  I don't have a problem with what they do teach and I know they would certainly not embrace your "greater context" that's for certain JD, so let's get real.

 

Let's not pretend that I am the one out of the mainstream, here,   --   or any of my friends. 

 

I'm not pretending anything JD, I agree you're in the mainstream or whatever stream comes along and that may be what's messing you up.

 

thinking that Jesus is not the Eternal Son, 

 

What I actually said is that Jesus is much more than the Son of God; he is also called Son of Man and has a whole lot of other Redemptive Names; why would you want to go along with the RCC and lock Him in.  Right now He is the King of Kings, and Lord of Lords. He's not still hanging on the cross with King of the Jews written at the top like the RCC portrays Him. That's all dead religious works.

 

denying faith as the point of salvation

 

When???

 

while   claiming that Adam was created for the Garden and nothing more, that he and Eve were more "spirit beings" than physical,

 

I don't claim anything of the sort JD; you need to stop this heresy

 

fantasizing that you have a Spirit of Correctness when it comes to Bible study and have no need for any other assistance   ----------------    well,  shall I run those thoughts by the leaders of BSF to see what they think?  

 

I have the Holy Spirit who leads me into all truth JD. If you run your words by BSF - don't attach my name to them lest you be found lying, they are yours and yours alone. 

 

Actually, next Monday night,  when I go,   I think I will run these by the folks.   Want to bet on the outcome???

 

I'm not a betting person and if I were I wouldn't bet on anything so far as you are concerned JD; if I need opinions from the multitude I will find a soapbox and a megaphone somewhere,  thank you very much.   jt

Are you ever wrong about biblical ocnsiderations?   Have you ever changed you mind about biblical meaning since you have received this spirit of enlightenment? 

JD

Well, let me try this again.   My computer is a sick puppy, froze up while up and went off line before I was finished with this post.   But it "sent" .   Soooo, I will try it again.  Go back to the top and see what the Smithmeister has to say.