Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS...

[Dave Hansen]

DAVEH:  FWIW.....I agree with what you explained below, Blaine.  But I've always thought LDS theology allows that Adam was a God in the pre-mortal existence, inasmuch as he was one of the key players (as you indicated below) who sat in on the planning sessions (so to speak) of the plan of salvation, and then was a/the pivotal character in implementing the gospel.  Is that how you understand Adam's role/status, Blaine?  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blaine:  I guess I just can't resist breaking into an interesting conversation!!  Perry you are wrong when you say Mormons believe  Adam was both God-the-Father and Michael in the pre-existance.  It is clear and consistent in all Mormon doctrinal treatesies on this subject that 1)  The man Adam was Michael the archangel in the pre-existence, 2) that  Michael was third in order of authority in the pre-existence.  Both the Father and the Son were above Michael in authority.  Michael was the executive of the will of the Father and the Son, you might say.    In a message dated 5/24/2005 8:01:49 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave,    If I am "somewhat close", can you tell me the part I am wrong about? You always say if I want to know what mormons believe, ask a mormon... Perry >From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic Method of >Teaching LDS doctrine on TT >Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 06:38:17 -0700 > > > >Charles Perry Locke wrote: > >>Dave, >> >>   Christians consider angels and humans to be two distinct types of >>created beings. > >DAVEH:  Yes, I understand that.  Yet, it seems Paul is telling us that it >is difficult (if not impossible) to tell us (mortals) apart from angels. > >>Correct me if I am wrong, but don't mormons consider angels to be either >>pre-mortal or post-mortal humans? For example, don't mormons consider >>Michael (the archangel) also to have been a human at one point...was it >>Adam? Hasn't he also been considered to be the mormon god the father? So, >>basically, one being can be spirit, angel, human, or god at various times. >>Am I right on this? > >DAVEH:  You are somewhat close. > >> >>Perry   -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.