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The court excuses the witness as he's fallen back
on name calling for lack of an answer. Again Kevin, I don't blame you for so
doing. You shine in other areas but, not on this one.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 21, 2005 07:56
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
Your god is a pipsqueak not capable of preserving his word!
I suspect he is not capable of anything.
Nope! Even with God in the equation,
imperfection (humanism if you like, though I prefer humanity) is still the
outcome.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 21, 2005 07:44
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Belief
My point exactly (see previous post)
YOU LEAVE God OUT of the EQUATION.
This is possibly why you have been called a
HUMANist. Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Granted that 'Pontificating' is both easier
and, more fun, I'll stick my nose in just a touch (discuss). The
Scriptures first appeared written in the languages spoken by those to
whom they were given. (non-controversial!) Thereafter they were
translated by men (mostly but, women participate in the activity now)
into other than the original languages (also non-controversial). In the
very activity of translating, these men/women invest part of themselves
into the translations. (I'd say non-controversial here also) Outcome?
Imperfection!
Sent: June 21, 2005 07:25
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Belief
Would you like to discuss such or just
Pontificate? Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Herein you sound like a Mormon, Kevin.
Belief overrides understanding. That's OK as everyone does this from
time to time.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 21, 2005
07:16
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Belief
You misunderstand?
It is not a work of men but a work of God
Kevin's meaning?
1. 'I do not see it as... Therefore
it might be imperfectly translated
2. 'I see it as ...It is
sufficiently representative of that which is necessary for
'salvation'.
3. It ain't perfect but, it is
sufficient. Therefore, so are most, if not all, other
translations.
It's a far cry from what you've
said in the past. It's a step in the right direction,
Kevin.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: June 21, 2005
06:53
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Belief
I do not see it as "perfectly translated" (by
men)
I see it as God's word (transmitted
& preserved by Him)
DAVEH:
Which version do you consider, perfectly translated,
Kevin?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
I hold the PERFECT Word of God in my hands. NO
ERRORS. Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
DAVEH:
Ahhhhhhh.....thanx for clearing the cobwebs,
Lance!
Was there not just
recently a big discussion on TT about the accuracy of
some of the Bible translations. There was a
little concern about the JW green Bible. And in
previous years we've discussed how the NIV version
dropped a few passages that are found in the
KJV. Just why do we have so many versions of
the Bible, if someone didn't think there was a problem
with the existing versions? Surely they
can't all be translated correctly.....do you
disagree?
Furthermore, when
two Christians determine doctrines differently from the
same source, does that not cause one to ponder
why? Could it be the translations are not
adequately conveying what God wants understood? I
don't view that as being a weakness of God , but rather
a weakness of the translation. Is that a
reasonable stance?
So Lance, I
would ask you (or any TTer) if you believe any
particular translation of the Bible is 100%
accurate. If the answer is yes, may I assume you
would then also believe that the other translations are
less than 100% accurate? Now, if the answer is
you do not believe a particular translation is 100%
accurate, then would you take my position and accept the
Bible to be the word of God as far as it it translated
correctly?
I would
sure be interested to know if any TTers really do
believe a given translation is 100%
accurate. And if you fear reprisal from
other TTers for whatever comments you might have, post
it to me off-Forum. As you know, I will not mock
or denigrate your comments....I'm sincerely interested
in knowing your beliefs.
Lance Muir wrote:
Enlarge upon "as far as
it is translated
correctly".
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