He did not say the "kingdom is temporal."   He said that it has a temporal quality.   If you cannot get G's post right,why should any of us believe that you can get the biblical message right? 
 
JD 
 
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In the NT perspectve, the Kingdom of God as it is, in Christ, has the temporal quality of eschatological dualism(e.d.)--the age to come colliding in time/history with this evil age inhabited by the unrighteous
 
jt: To start with the KOG is not temporal so your theory is already blown out of the water; the first Adam is the temporal one, you need to investigate the second.
 
however, e.d. has nothing to do with your mentality rooted in typical philosophical/moral dualism--your rendering of the 'evil' system of either/or categories in which ppl define their perfect 'this age' existence in terms of a series of false theses, anti-theses, and hypo-theses overlayed haphazardly with scriptures loosely interpreted to match prerequisites which originate outside of historical scriptural history
 
jt: It is all in your head GO - all a figment of your own imagination.  The old was judged at the cross, the new
has arrived.  Impossible to put new wine into old wineskins. You need to lay all that philosophical mind bending aside.
 
iow, knowing a little about God ain't made a dent in their presuppositional thinking in your case, lets say your (dualistic) spirit category has been altered by the Holt Spirit--so what?  
 
jt: So, it is not and never has been mine. It is YOUR dualistic thinking. So do with it whatever you want ... not my problem.
 
it is not evident in your thinking category--the twain aint never met to me this is more proof of the stranglehold of philosophical dualism partic on the right wing mind set (like Izzy's, too) and the corresponding agenda/s, where as usual, the business of America is (your) business
 
jt: No, I leave the business of America to those duly elected to office in DC which does not include me. I also leave philosophy to those unfortunate souls who are bound by it because to be carnally minded is death whereas to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
 
as far as i'm concerned, it ain't much different in liberalism, but, so far, neither of you pay enough attention to my writing to notice the take on truth, where scripture says the age to come is unknown (mystery) apart from the presence of the future, meaning the future revealed in the NT in JCs person & ministry--he said 'I have come that you may have (abundant) life (in the Johannine, in cnt to the American sense of it)
 
jt: The mystery has been revealed to those with eyes to see but if you insist on being stuck in a time warp with your liberalism, dualism, and Bob Dylan - not much anyone can do for you GO
 
the presence of the future is realized only in actual faith in Christ and in intellectual adjustment/s to his teaching present in the NT in contrast with the establishment teaching of this present age which the right wing and left wing are addicted to the dualistic mentality (you) ppl adhere to in contrast to the NT  proves the preference for the principles of this age under the regime of the 'prince of the power of the air'--it outweighs interest in JC himself (who simply blows establishment thinking away)
 
jt: Then it wasn't the Spirit of Christ who spoke and ministered through the apostle Paul??  I don't see him blowing anything away - and in the NT even the demons know they don't need to tremble before the time.
 
 
On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 08:00:12 -0400 Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com> writes:
..there is "none righteous" who walk in the flesh under the old Adamic nature.
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