Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

[Kevin Deegan]

many Churches have a cross on top.

Is that just a coincident?

There is a reason

 

LDS buildings have a Golden Angel on top pointing east just another coincident?

Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Do you hate the cross also?

DAVEH:   No Kevin......I do not hate the cross.  I just find it peculiarly interesting that many Christians seem so attached to the device used to torture and kill our Lord.   When Jesus returns to the earth, do you think it likely he will be wearing a chain around his neck with a cross attached? 

    Furthermore, why do you feel the implied need to categorize people as cross lovers or cross haters?  Is it not possible that one can look upon the cross in its historical context, by recognizing what it did to our Savior without categorizing him (not referring to Jesus) as a cross hater?  How would you categorize Jesus.....is he a cross lover or hater?

Kevin Deegan wrote:

So you find it WEIRD too

Do you hate the cross also?

Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

*EXACTLY what he finds weird.*

DAVEH: WWJD.........

Have you ever wondered if Jesus feels like.......

_/I will cling to the old rugged cross/_

.........again.........or........do you think he wants to be reminded
of.......

_/The emblem of suffering and shame/_

...........it he experienced on it? Do you think Jesus feels the
cross........

*/_Has a wondrous attraction......._/*

.........For.......

*/_'twas on that old cross Jesus suffered and died,_/*

....which may not be something our Lord needs to be reminded about, so
why do Christians think he'll..........

*/_........cherish the old rugged cross,_/*

.......Unless they feel he needs to be re minded of......

_/The emblem of suffering and shame;/_

.......it represents.

IFF it wouldn't be surprising that Jesus would find such thinking
weird, then why wouldn't Christians consider the feelings Jesus may have
about the cross?

Kevin Deegan wrote:

> Still waiting on Blaines explanation of *EXACTLY what he finds weird.*
>
> */ShieldsFamily /* wrote:
>
>
> *THE OLD RUGGED CROSS *
>
>
> *On a hill far away stood an old rugged cross,
> *_/The emblem of suffering and shame;/_*
> And I love that old cross where the dearest and best
> For a world of lost sinners was slain.*
> *_/So I'll cherish the old rugged cross,/_
> Till my trophies at last I lay down;
> *_/I will cling to the old rugged cross,/_*
> And exchange it some day for a crown.*
> *O that old rugged cross, so despised by the world,
> /_Has a wondrou s attraction for me_/;
> For the dear Lamb of God left His glory above
> To bear it to dark Calvary.*
> */_So I'll cherish the old rugged cross,_/
> Till my trophies at last I lay down;
> /_I will cling to the old rugged cross,_/
> And exchange it some day for a crown.*
> *In that old rugged cross, stained with blood so divine,
> A wondrous beauty I see,
> /_For 'twas on that old cr oss Jesus suffered and died,_/
> To pardon and sanctify me.*
> */_So I'll cherish the old rugged cross,_/
> Till my trophies at last I lay down;
> /_I will cling to the old rugged cross,_/
> And exchange it some day for a crown.*
> *To the old rugged cross I will ever be true;
> /_Its shame and reproach gladly bear;_/
> Then He'll call me some day to my home far away,
> Where His glory forever I'll share.*
> */_So I'll cherish the old rugged cross,_/
> Till my t rophies at last I lay down;
> _/I will cling to the old rugged cross,/_
> And exchange it some day for a crown.*
> Yes, a lost person would think that those lyrics are "weird",
> indeed. iz
>
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> In a message dated 12/12/2005 7:42:12 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> One of the best songs I ever heard was titled, "He Loved Me
> with a Cross". iz
>
> One of the weirdest songs I ever heard was //The Old Rugged
> Cross//. It seemed to glorify the cross in a negative way. I
> doubt the Lord even to this day is overly fond of t hat old rugged
> cross. :>)
> Blainerb
>
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