Funny -- I thought this came from a Dean post. So he and JS kinda think alike at this point !!! Interesting.
jd
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From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
'God the Father came down to earth and walked as a man to teach..and die on the cross'?WHO IS THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS STATEMENT?Joe SmithJoseph Smith's 1832 account of the First Vision spoke only of one personage and did not make the explicit separation of God and Christ found in the 1838 version. The Book of Mormon declared that Mary "is the mother of God, after the manner of the flesh," which as James Allen and Richard Howard have pointed out was changed in 1837 to "mother of the Son of God." Abinidi's sermon in the Book of Mormon explored the relationship between God and Christ: "God himself shall come down among the children of men, and shall redeem his people. And because he dwelleth in flesh he shall be called the Son of God, and having subjected the flesh to the will of the Father, being the Father and the Son-The Father, because he was conceived by the power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son-And they are one God, yea, the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth." (Mosiah 15:1-4.)
Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:HUH?? INDEED!! 'God the Father came down to earth and walked as a man to teach..and die on the cross'?WHO IS THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS STATEMENT?----- Original Message -----From: TaylorSent: December 14, 2005 19:32Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] CrossOr should one have Joy that God the Father came down to earth and walked as a man to teach us truth and to die on the cross for our salvation . . .Huh?-----Original Message-----Well stated, Dean. I liked this part best..
From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross
Terry
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Dean Moore wrote:cd: Case and point without the cross there could be no savior-hence no salvation and as keeping the law was a failure all were headed to hell-no way to pay for redemption. Yes, our sins added to his suffering-so let us not sin any more as to crucify Christ anew. But you must remember that God gave us the gift of Christ-suffering and all that goes with him is the gift of God-Would you tell God I am sad that you gave me such a great gift? Or should one have Joy that God the Father came down to earth and walked as a man to teach us truth and to die on the cross for our salvation-Who now stand in heaven with Great honor-Sad? I say rejoice and praise his name-even the angels agreed as they said "We bring you tidings of Great joy"....
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