Re: [TruthTalk] Who decides

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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> John wrote:
> > At no time do I beleive that you or anyone
> > else possesses truth that cannot be wrong.
>
> By definition, truth cannot be wrong. Therefore, the truth I possess cannot
> be wrong, neither can the truth that you possess be wrong. If something you
> hold to is found to be wrong, you can be sure that whatever it was, it was
> not truth.

My error , here, is that I did not write "truth" as I intended it to be understood.  Let me put it to you another way, David    ........   there is nothing that you believe as a mater of faith that cannot be wrong. 
>
> David Miller wrote:
> >> Baptism in the Holy Spirit and speaking
> >> in tongues helps too.
>
> John wrote:
> > I have had that experience and spiritual
> > tongue is ENGLISH !!!
>
> If you have not spoken in a language that you did not learn and did not
> understand, then you have not had that experience of being baptized in the
> Holy Spirit.

This is not a thought that is in line with biblical teaching, my friend.   Baptism of the Spirit occurs for me on every occasion, and I mean every occasion that I share songs and hymns in a corporate setting.  Eph 5:18-19 is a reference you might consider.  My testimony pictures the reality.   As far as speaking in "tongues."   According to you,  my understanding and use of the English language is infintile at best.   From your perspective and past insults,   English is an unknown tongue for poor old John Smithson.  

At any rate, the "baptism of the Spirit with evidence of speaking in tongues" has such poor theological foundation that it, as a doctrine,  is quickly vanishing from the scene of the Pentecostal community.  

 

I've already shared with you the Scriptures, that when one
> prays in the spirit, his mind is unfruitful. When you pray in a language
> you understand, you necessarily involve your mind, so that is not speaking
> in tongues. Furthermore, you cannot pray for the interpretation of what you
> have spoken if your mind already understands what you have said.

Huh?   I can't pray for what I don't understand because my prayer tongue is English??  !!     My wife prays in tongues.   I have been around the experience for years and years, David.  I am just as much in the spirit as my wife during worship times.   Time after time I have simply knelt during worship or stood with raised hands and just let it all soak in .    At those times,  I am fully aware of the promised intervention of the Spirit on my behalf.   God speakst to me, David, just as certainly as He does to you and, who knows, maybe more often.    But the experience of Spirit filling  (read: spirit baptism) is not the center of my "new nature."   The Lordship of Christ is.     The Lord has revealed to me the vanity of placing too much stock in "spiritual knowledge."  

 

 

>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller.
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