Everyone is born into this world with an equal opportunity to choose
who they will serve
DAVEH: I hope you don't mind me jumping into your exchange with JD,
Judy. Do you have any Biblical evidence to support your above theory?
If not, then can you explain how.....
1) A Chinese person born 2,000 years ago would have had the same equal
opportunity to choose as did somebody born in Jerusalem at the
same time?
2) Or, a Chinese person born 100 years ago would have had the same equal
opportunity to choose as somebody born in the Bible Belt?
3) Or a person born in China who was born 100 years before Jesus had
the same equal opportunity to choose as one who lived in
Jerusalem at the time of Christ?
IOW.....How as a Christian well rooted and having the knowledge of
Christ readily available from the time you were born, and perhaps
relatives to guide your in your walk in his footsteps, do you think the
above mentioned examples of the Chinese guy born in a non-Christian
society really do have equal opportunity to choose who they will
serve? To me it seems there is a definite inequality in the
circumstances in which people are born, and in having an equal
opportunity to choose who they will serve to even hear Jesus'
name, let alone accept him as their Savior, or choose to follow and
serve him when they do not have the opportunity to hear the gospel.
I can see where you might think Jesus would accept all men equally,
but to say that all men are born into the world with equal opportunity
seems a bit of a stretch. Is it theory, or is it Biblical doctrine?
Judith H Taylor wrote:
Everyone is born into this world with an equal opportunity to
choose who they will serve.
along with the opportunity to grow in wisdom and grace - or in
deceit and darkness... judyt
What do you believe separates ppl at birth JD? judyt
I thought Dean was saying that all men are born
equal. That, of course, is not true. Some are way more stupid than
others, growing up without understanding nor the ability to comprehend
the deeper things of life. God loves them all, of course, but that
does not make then "equal."
jd
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Re: [TruthTalk] God female?
WRONG!!! JDS - God inspired all of it; the Holy Spirit did
not expire after Moses penned the
Pentateuch and God is a FATHER all the way through the
Bible. Father in Hebrew means Father
and guess what? Father in Greek also means Father.
Once again, this time it is John, not Lance !! Using
your example below, do you know the difference between the Hebrew text
and the English translation of that text? God "inspired" the Hebrew
text, Dean, not the English translation of that text.
That is clearly and obvioiusly what I am saying. You
need a lexicon , NOT A DICTIONARY.
jd (or maybe it is Lance)
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Re: [TruthTalk] God female?
The culture gave us the language of
a masculine God, David. I am surprised you made the same
intellectual mistake as Dean.
jd
cd: So God directing the writing of Moses with the
first five book had nothing to do with what was written?Is this what
you are saying Lance.
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> Dean rightly understood that your premise was that the Jewish
CULTURE
> attributed masculinity to God. Dean made a most excellent response
to your
> position.
>
> David Miller.
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 1:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God female?
>
> cd: This makes no sense at all to me John-The culture decided what
God
> is?Can they now decide he is a women? What if they decide He is a
calf?
>
> Good move, Dean !!! Don't deal with the arugment presented
claiming
> ignorace of my intent. And what faith should I have in further
explanation
> in view of the fact that you did not unde rstand what I wrote in
the first
> place? Why is it that you cliam to understand the biblical message
but
> cannot understand what I have said? Amazing. Intellectually, we
are not
> on the same planet. You, of course, being much my superior.
>
> See ya,
>
> jd
>
>
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> From:
> To: [email protected];TruthTalk
> Cc: Dean Moore
> Sent: 2/8/2006 12:31:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God female?
>
>
> Keep on ignoring Gen 1:27 , Dean.
>
> There is no sex with God. He is neither male or female in a sexual
sort of
> way. And why is the masculine used? Ever heard of "cultural
demands?"
> Since God is not an "it," since He is a person, we must use either
> maculine or feminine. The culture of the Jew gave us the masculine
> reference. The fact of the matter is bound to scripture -- namely
Gen
> 1:27. .................... you'll re c o g ni ze that reference
because it is the
> one you and Judy keep ignoring. There, we have a clear (to most)
> revelation concerning a small aspect of "God's image." Since one
cannot be
> both "male and female," since Adam AND Eve both are the image of
God,
> "the image of God" has little to nothing to do the gender.
>
> jd
> cd: This makes no sense at all to me John-The culture decided what
God
> is?Can they now decide he is a women? What if they decide He is a
calf?
> Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God
created he
> him; male and female created he them.
> First this passage says that God created man in his image- then it
goes on
> to say He created both males and females.I see no contradictions
to me
> statements here-unless one believe there is no difference between
males and
> females. He is the mescaline. I realize you cannot understand this
but maybe
> others can John..The below says that m an wa s cre ated in the
image of God
> ,"BUT" women was is the glory of man. Clearly a difference is
shown.
> 1Co 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch
as he is
> the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
> cd: As you didn't receive this the first time-I am resending
it-God has a
> masculine nature.Jesus had a masculine nature and a masculine
body.
> Masculine
> M`ASCULINE, a. [L. masculinus, from masculus, mas..]
> 1. Having the qualities of a man; strong; robust; as a masculine
body.
> 2. Resembling man; coarse; opposed to delicate or soft; as
masculine
> features.
> 3. Bold; brave; as a masculine spirit or courage.
> 4. In grammar,the masculine gender of words is that which
expresses a male,
> or something analogous to it; or it is the gender appropriated to
males,
> though not always expressing the male sex.
>
>
>
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From: "Dean Moore"
>
> cd: Here is another Bibical spirit that is a male?
> 1Sa 28:8 And Saul disguised himself, and put on other raiment, and
he went,
> and two men with him, and they came to the woman by night: and he
said, I
> pray thee, divine unto me by the familiar spirit, and bring me him
up, whom
> I shall name unto thee.
> 1Sa 28:9 And the woman said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what
Saul hath
> done, how he hath cut off those that have familiar spirits, and
the wizards,
> out of the land: wherefore then layest thou a snare for my life,
to cause me
> to die?
> 1Sa 28:10 And Saul swore to her by the LORD, saying, As the LORD
liveth,
> there shall no punishment happen to thee for this thing.
> 1Sa 28:11 Then said the woman, Whom shall I bring up unto thee?
And he said,
> Bring me up Samuel.
> 1Sa 28:12 And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud
voice: and
> ; th e woman sp ok e to S aul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me?
for thou art
> Saul.
> 1Sa 28:13 And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what
sawest thou?
> And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the
earth.
> 1Sa 28:14 And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said,
An old man
> cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived
that it was
> Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed
himself.
> 1Sa 28:15 And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to
bring me
> up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines
make war
> against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more,
neither
> by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that
thou mayest
> make known unto me what I shall do
> 1Sa 28:16 Then said Samuel, Wherefore then dost thou ask of me,
seeing the
> LORD is departed from thee, and is become thine enemy?
> 1Sa 28:1 7 And the L ORD hath d one to him, as he spoke by me: for
the LORD
> hath rent the kingdom out of thine hand, and given it to thy
neighbor, even
> to David:
> 1Sa 28:18 Because thou obeyedst not the voice of the LORD, nor
executedst
> his fierce wrath upon Amalek, therefore hath the LORD done this
thing unto
> thee this day.
>
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you may know how
> you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)
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